Hi Lodewijk, responde in line!
*María Cruz * \\ Community Coordinator, PE&D Team \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. [email protected] | : @marianarra_ <https://twitter.com/marianarra_> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Maria, > > Thanks for linking again to this data-oriented report. I think it would be > very interesting to focus this training on best practices, what works and > what not - given the vast variety of cultures. > The focus of Learning and Evaluation team is also on best practices, not just data. I also hope to go beyond the focus of grants, but it might be a starting > point for some of the information to prepare. > We can work together in building learning resources both on best practices and geo-specific programs. > > Going back to the original question, at this point I think the primary > questions lie around whether and how such a training can be set up - I > think for example that the additional angles from the new countries could > proof valuable. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Maria Cruz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> (Sorry for the previous email, accidentally clicked sent.) >> >> Hi Lodewijk, >> This initiative is very interesting. At the Learning and Evaluation team >> we always look forward to capture the learning processes that take place >> within the movement, and share that knowledge as much as possible. I want >> to offer support in this initiative to anyone who joins this effort: do >> reach out and tell me how we can best help you. I have now added the >> project on Commons to my watchlist and will follow up with news there. >> >> At this point, I also wanted to share in this thread the information we >> already have about WLM, which includes key lessons learned. The Evaluation >> Report (beta)* [1] *was the first outlet produced by our team about the >> most common Wikimedia programs. You can see the specific report for WLM >> here: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013/WLM >> >> This report was possible thanks to the I Round of Data Collection, a >> period in which program leaders all over the world can join voluntary >> program reporting and submit their data on Wikimedia programs. Right now, >> we are going through II Round of Data Collection *[2]*, and obviously, >> we are looking for data! Anyone can submit their data on WLM 2013 and WLM >> 2014. Questions or comments can be directed to me. With this second round, >> we want to improve the first report, expand it and make it better. >> Hopefully, it will also help inform the training you are looking forward to >> have. >> >> Why are we looking for program data? It helps us understand how programs >> work, how much effort they take, and what results they bring to the >> movement at large. Most importantly, it gives us leads on potential for >> further development of programs, ways to innovate, try things that haven't >> been done before. >> >> As always, I am here to help. Reach out with questions and comments! >> >> Thanks, >> >> *María Cruz * \\ Community Coordinator, PE&D Team \\ Wikimedia >> Foundation, Inc. >> [email protected] | : @marianarra_ <https://twitter.com/marianarra_> >> >> Links: >> *[1] Evaluation Report (beta):* >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013 >> *[2] II Round of Data Collection:* >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/News/Round_II_Announcement >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Zana Strkovska <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Lodewijk, >>> >>> I signed myself as willing to help, and I wrote a note in "Target >>> group". I have more idea on how to help, but wanted to see how this initial >>> idea will be accepted from the others. >>> >>> Username: Violetova >>> >>> Regards, >>> Zana >>> >>> 2014-11-06 23:20 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not >>>> having specifics yet :) >>>> >>>> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves >>>> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same >>>> philosophy >>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Philosophy>), >>>> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different countries, >>>> but that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even >>>> if we share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to >>>> the implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that >>>> this could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the >>>> costs (especially in volunteer organizing time). >>>> >>>> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, >>>> we had a very effective meeting (May 2011 >>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/May_Meeting>) >>>> with a bunch of people from countries that indicated they wanted to >>>> organize WLM later that year. Although much was to be improved, it helped >>>> to build an effective network of people helping each other to organize >>>> effective competitions - sharing skills, tools and inspiration. The >>>> discussions there were in my opinion a major component in the success of >>>> the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in 2012 we also had a shorter meeting in >>>> Amsterdam). >>>> >>>> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an >>>> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful work >>>> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression >>>> that both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better >>>> international coordination could have helped the competition. >>>> >>>> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be >>>> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers >>>> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best >>>> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can be >>>> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in the >>>> beginning. >>>> >>>> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so >>>> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of organizers >>>> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, the >>>> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of our >>>> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the >>>> money etc - that is a separate discussion. >>>> >>>> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's >>>> going to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be >>>> worth it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would >>>> be highly valued on this page >>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training> >>>> on >>>> Wikimedia Commons. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, >>>> >>>> Lodewijk >>>> >>>> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future >>>> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team >>>> again :) Just want to be realistic. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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