Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well? Thanks!
Best, Lodewijk On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from > veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of > high-impact activities that may be included in the training. > > 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This > is one of the biggest problem for WLM. > 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our > competition more attractive. > 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to > participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to > bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a > pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as > if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion > criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training#High_impact_activities > > On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and the > > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input > on it > > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather > > than uninterested! > > > > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I > tried > > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we > need > > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If we > > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had > in > > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if we > > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the idea, > > and let it be. Would be sad! > > > > Looking forward to your input on > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training > > > > Lodewijk > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not > >> having specifics yet :) > >> > >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves > >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same > philosophy), > >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different > countries, but > >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even > if we > >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the > >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that > this > >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the > costs > >> (especially in volunteer organizing time). > >> > >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, > we > >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from > >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year. > >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective > network of > >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing > >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion > a > >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in > 2012 > >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam). > >> > >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an > >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful work > >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression > that > >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better > >> international coordination could have helped the competition. > >> > >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be > >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers > >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best > >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can > be > >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in > the > >> beginning. > >> > >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so > >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of organizers > >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, > the > >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of > our > >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the > money > >> etc - that is a separate discussion. > >> > >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's going > >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be > worth > >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be > >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons. > >> > >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, > >> > >> Lodewijk > >> > >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future > >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team > >> again :) Just want to be realistic. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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