I finished moving the pages, posted the summary at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Historic_sites/Nepal#Further_actions

Cheers
Yaroslav



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Nirmal Dulal <[email protected]> wrote:

> We did it, thanks to everyone who work on this project.
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:53 PM Lodewijk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ganesh,
>>
>> There's also a conversation going on here, that you may want to look at:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Historic_sites/
>> Nepal#Merged_lists
>>
>> Thanks all for making the lists move! One less concern, and people can
>> now also more easily find information about Nepal's heritage.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Ganesh Paudel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the monument should be enlisted according to new administrative
>>> division. Let's work on it to reduce future works and to reduce confusion
>>> as well.
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Yaroslav Blanter <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the time being, I moved about half of them, I expect to be done
>>>> over the weekend. I think the obvious next step is to reorganize them in
>>>> terms of the new administrative division if possible. Also, I think there
>>>> is some mess in the pages over the Kathmandu, but I will move them last and
>>>> make one more effort to understand what is related to what.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Yaroslav
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Ganesh Paudel <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great news,
>>>>> Thanks Biplav, Nabin and all for added citations. Let's work on the
>>>>> remaining lists pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ganesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Yaroslav Blanter <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I started moving to the main space, it may take several days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Yaroslav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Ganesh Paudel <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great, thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> २०१७ सेप्टेम्बर १५ ४:०६ उत्तर मध्यान्ह मा, "Biplab Anand" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> लेख्नुभयो:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> The draft articles
>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Historic_sites/Nepal>
>>>>>>>> have been updated with sources. Would like to request to move the 
>>>>>>>> articles
>>>>>>>> to the main space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Biplab
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Ganesh Paudel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Lodewijk, Karthik, Nicolas and all,
>>>>>>>>> Please refer the pages below. I have put the citations of
>>>>>>>>> reference that I have used while making the monument list back in 
>>>>>>>>> 2013.
>>>>>>>>> I'd request to move the articles to the main space.
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_
>>>>>>>>> KHP,_Kathmandu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope I will put the citation of other books by the end of the
>>>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With best regards
>>>>>>>>> Ganesh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Lodewijk <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (update: Yaroslav is helping to restore the pages now! Yay :) But
>>>>>>>>>> help with creating proper articles is very much appreciated)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Lodewijk <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the thoughts, Nicolas.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, some help to get these pages restored and then
>>>>>>>>>>> helping to edit (add reference and introduction) & move them would 
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> great. Not sure if that needs admins.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To answer your questions:
>>>>>>>>>>> * I'm actually not sure if there's another list in Nepali. But
>>>>>>>>>>> those lists are language sensitive, so having an English list on 
>>>>>>>>>>> newiki
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't make a lot of sense. I guess you also wouldn't appreciate 
>>>>>>>>>>> those on
>>>>>>>>>>> frwiki? ;) That being said, there are some 123 languages
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Nepal> being spoken
>>>>>>>>>>> in Nepal.
>>>>>>>>>>> * The lists for Kosi have been restored before the admin
>>>>>>>>>>> realized it was 200+ pages, and decided it needed more discussion. 
>>>>>>>>>>> But the
>>>>>>>>>>> good part is that you can now see what all the other lists look 
>>>>>>>>>>> like. It is
>>>>>>>>>>> also an opportunity to show what they can become. An example would 
>>>>>>>>>>> be the
>>>>>>>>>>> Indian list I linked, I think. But it needs some creativity.
>>>>>>>>>>> * There is a source, in Nepali :) It is linked in the list of
>>>>>>>>>>> lists (of lists)
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TLDR; What can we do? (expecially for someone like me who isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> admin on enwp and don't really know Nepal).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That sad:( I'm not sure what I can do. Here some remarks (not
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure if it helps) :
>>>>>>>>>>>> * why go on enwp (which is notoriously complicated, and more
>>>>>>>>>>>> and more so) and not on newp - it would seems more logical and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably easier there ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * some list have not been deleted
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kosi_Zone ; indeed it's empty and look abandonned :/ I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> looked to add photo and other improvement but my knowledge of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal. Can
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone give some pointer and example of what can be done and how?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * as always on Wikipedia, the problem is source... Is there any
>>>>>>>>>>>> avalaible source for these lists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-08-29 14:21 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone at enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement I at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, a discussion is ongoing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal_-_drafts_now_deleted>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to resolve this on admins noticeboard, because apparently 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's normal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to delete 200+ pages immediately, but restoring them requires 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some helpful suggestions and actual help to turn these drafts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into normal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mainspace lists would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume it should be possible to turn these lists into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encyclopedic lists, given that there's a good reference available 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see the main
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An introduction similar to that of Indian Monuments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monuments_of_National_Importance_in_Bihar>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should also be doable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any takers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>> --
> Regards,
>
> *Nirmal Dulal <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+NirmalDulal>*
> Phone:+977-9851118529
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