Can the Nepal monument protecting organisation release the list in public
with appropriate license?




/Karthik

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm adding Nirmal, who's the Nepali contact person, to the cc.
>
> Nirmal, can you help out?
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Yaroslav Blanter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The pages have been restored, and hopefully will make participation in
>> WLM for Nepal easier. Thanks to everybody who helped.
>>
>> However, at the very least, sources must be added to every page. I will
>> have a look later, but I am not sure I am qualified enough to add a source
>> in Nepali. I will also try to write a two-line introduction for every page.
>> Some data are still clearly missing (such as locality for many monuments),
>> and wikification is non-existent. Once these problems are solved, we can
>> make a reasonable case for moving them back to the article space.
>>
>> We badly need a Nepalui speaker who could help with sourcing (or a source
>> in English).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Yaroslav
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (update: Yaroslav is helping to restore the pages now! Yay :) But help
>>> with creating proper articles is very much appreciated)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the thoughts, Nicolas.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, some help to get these pages restored and then helping to
>>>> edit (add reference and introduction) & move them would be great. Not sure
>>>> if that needs admins.
>>>>
>>>> To answer your questions:
>>>> * I'm actually not sure if there's another list in Nepali. But those
>>>> lists are language sensitive, so having an English list on newiki wouldn't
>>>> make a lot of sense. I guess you also wouldn't appreciate those on frwiki?
>>>> ;) That being said, there are some 123 languages
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Nepal> being spoken in
>>>> Nepal.
>>>> * The lists for Kosi have been restored before the admin realized it
>>>> was 200+ pages, and decided it needed more discussion. But the good part is
>>>> that you can now see what all the other lists look like. It is also an
>>>> opportunity to show what they can become. An example would be the Indian
>>>> list I linked, I think. But it needs some creativity.
>>>> * There is a source, in Nepali :) It is linked in the list of lists
>>>> (of lists)
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> TLDR; What can we do? (expecially for someone like me who isn't admin
>>>>> on enwp and don't really know Nepal).
>>>>>
>>>>> That sad:( I'm not sure what I can do. Here some remarks (not sure if
>>>>> it helps) :
>>>>> * why go on enwp (which is notoriously complicated, and more and more
>>>>> so) and not on newp - it would seems more logical and it's probably easier
>>>>> there ?
>>>>> * some list have not been deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>> Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Kosi_Zone ; indeed it's empty and look
>>>>> abandonned :/ I've looked to add photo and other improvement but my
>>>>> knowledge of Nepal. Can someone give some pointer and example of what can
>>>>> be done and how?
>>>>> * as always on Wikipedia, the problem is source... Is there any
>>>>> avalaible source for these lists?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-29 14:21 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A while back we discussed the lists in Nepal. Unfortunately someone
>>>>>> at enwiki deleted them a few days ago (see some notifications here
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Biplab_Anand/Archive1#Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Mahakali_Zone>)
>>>>>> because the 'draft has not been edited for six months'. A requirement I 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least wasn't aware of. These articles were moved from the project 
>>>>>> namespace
>>>>>> to the draft namespace last year, after this discussion
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, a discussion is ongoing
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion.2FWikipedia:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal_-_drafts_now_deleted>
>>>>>> how to resolve this on admins noticeboard, because apparently it's normal
>>>>>> to delete 200+ pages immediately, but restoring them requires discussion 
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> Some helpful suggestions and actual help to turn these drafts into normal
>>>>>> mainspace lists would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume it should be possible to turn these lists into encyclopedic
>>>>>> lists, given that there's a good reference available (see the main
>>>>>> list of lists
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Monuments_in_Nepal>).
>>>>>> An introduction similar to that of Indian Monuments
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monuments_of_National_Importance_in_Bihar>
>>>>>> should also be doable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any takers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>
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