I agree with you about the visibility of t-shirts, but we have found in Ireland that reusable cotton shopping bags are very popular as gifts, and have the same benefit of being seen.
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 19:27, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Pe joi, 8 august 2019, Mariel Garcia Montes <mmontes-...@wikimedia.org> a > scris: > >> Thank you for your question (and to Nicolas for chiming in). The answer >> is *it depends*. And here is what it depends on: >> >> If you are providing vouchers or large prizes as part of your competition >> and T-shirts (or stationery) are a secondary prize for the same individuals >> who would receive these large prizes, then we would ask you to remove them >> from the budget. >> However, if you are printing a small number of T-shirts (or stationery) >> as the only prizes for a small number of people, then we would not take >> them off your budget. >> >> The general rationale is that, in Rapid Grants experience, T-shirts and >> stationery end up being high-cost items in most grant proposals, and, >> unless they are given out strategically, they will add to a pile of things >> that people don't use. We don't think the world needs more of that! >> >> Now, more specifically about T-shirts. Let's say that you are considering >> T-shirts as the main prizes in your competition. We will not say no, but we >> will encourage people to consider other gifts, such as notebooks or mugs, >> for the following reasons: >> >> - When you are designing and printing T-shirts, you generally go with a >> set shape or size that might not fit the people who will receive it in the >> end. So T-shirts can end up excluding people who do not fit in this average >> because they are too big or too small… You can read what others have said >> about this issue (for example, on this blog post >> <https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2018/05/no-more-conference-t-shirts-please/>). >> > > Hmm, is that the general way to go? We always printed the t-shirts based > on requests from the winners. > >> >> - How many people do you know that actually wear all the T-shirts they >> receive from similar initiatives? Wiki volunteers might be expected to wear >> and re-wear these T-shirts in different events, but people with loose >> affiliations to the movement most likely won't. A mug, a notebook, socks, >> have more use potential than a T-shirt. >> > > I do know quite a lot of people who wear the swag they receive, but I > realize that this is dependent on local context and habits. Specifically, > in Romania it is not uncommon for photographers to work in t-shirts (as > opposed to shirts or a more formal attire). > > That being said, compared to the other stuff you mentioned, t-shirts have > the advantage of lasting much longer AND being far more visible. Mugs and > socks are mostly visible to their owners, while t-shirts visible to anyone > who happens to be near the owner. > > >> Again, if you decide that, in your context, T-shirts are the best >> possible incentive and that's the prize you choose, we will accept it. But >> in the meantime, please consider more inclusive and useful alternatives. >> >> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:57 PM Nicolas VIGNERON < >> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Le jeu. 8 août 2019 à 18:49, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi Mariel, >>>> >>>> I understand from the guidelines that t-shirts can still be provided as >>>> prizes. Is this correct? >>>> >>>> Strainu >>>> >>> >>> Well... It's unclear but it's also what I understand from >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Learn#Facilities,_equipment_and_materials >>> >>> Cdlt, ~nicolas >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mariel García-Montes >> Junior Program Officer, Rapid Grants >> Community Resources >> Pronouns: she/her/hers >> Wikimedia Foundation >> User: MMontes (WMF) >> > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- PhD in Digital Media Project Coordinator Wikimedia Community Ireland <http://wikimedia.ie>
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