Definitely like that idea! (and keep them coming :) ) I think the takeaway message is that if you have something that works particularly well in your country as a prize, go for it. But given the limited funding, secondary prizes are this time probably not supported.
Lodewijk On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:35 AM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with you about the visibility of t-shirts, but we have found in > Ireland that reusable cotton shopping bags are very popular as gifts, and > have the same benefit of being seen. > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 19:27, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Pe joi, 8 august 2019, Mariel Garcia Montes <mmontes-...@wikimedia.org> >> a scris: >> >>> Thank you for your question (and to Nicolas for chiming in). The answer >>> is *it depends*. And here is what it depends on: >>> >>> If you are providing vouchers or large prizes as part of your >>> competition and T-shirts (or stationery) are a secondary prize for the same >>> individuals who would receive these large prizes, then we would ask you to >>> remove them from the budget. >>> However, if you are printing a small number of T-shirts (or stationery) >>> as the only prizes for a small number of people, then we would not take >>> them off your budget. >>> >>> The general rationale is that, in Rapid Grants experience, T-shirts and >>> stationery end up being high-cost items in most grant proposals, and, >>> unless they are given out strategically, they will add to a pile of things >>> that people don't use. We don't think the world needs more of that! >>> >>> Now, more specifically about T-shirts. Let's say that you are >>> considering T-shirts as the main prizes in your competition. We will not >>> say no, but we will encourage people to consider other gifts, such as >>> notebooks or mugs, for the following reasons: >>> >>> - When you are designing and printing T-shirts, you generally go with a >>> set shape or size that might not fit the people who will receive it in the >>> end. So T-shirts can end up excluding people who do not fit in this average >>> because they are too big or too small… You can read what others have said >>> about this issue (for example, on this blog post >>> <https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2018/05/no-more-conference-t-shirts-please/> >>> ). >>> >> >> Hmm, is that the general way to go? We always printed the t-shirts based >> on requests from the winners. >> >>> >>> - How many people do you know that actually wear all the T-shirts they >>> receive from similar initiatives? Wiki volunteers might be expected to wear >>> and re-wear these T-shirts in different events, but people with loose >>> affiliations to the movement most likely won't. A mug, a notebook, socks, >>> have more use potential than a T-shirt. >>> >> >> I do know quite a lot of people who wear the swag they receive, but I >> realize that this is dependent on local context and habits. Specifically, >> in Romania it is not uncommon for photographers to work in t-shirts (as >> opposed to shirts or a more formal attire). >> >> That being said, compared to the other stuff you mentioned, t-shirts have >> the advantage of lasting much longer AND being far more visible. Mugs and >> socks are mostly visible to their owners, while t-shirts visible to anyone >> who happens to be near the owner. >> >> >>> Again, if you decide that, in your context, T-shirts are the best >>> possible incentive and that's the prize you choose, we will accept it. But >>> in the meantime, please consider more inclusive and useful alternatives. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:57 PM Nicolas VIGNERON < >>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le jeu. 8 août 2019 à 18:49, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi Mariel, >>>>> >>>>> I understand from the guidelines that t-shirts can still be provided >>>>> as prizes. Is this correct? >>>>> >>>>> Strainu >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well... It's unclear but it's also what I understand from >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Learn#Facilities,_equipment_and_materials >>>> >>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariel García-Montes >>> Junior Program Officer, Rapid Grants >>> Community Resources >>> Pronouns: she/her/hers >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> User: MMontes (WMF) >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > -- > PhD in Digital Media > Project Coordinator Wikimedia Community Ireland <http://wikimedia.ie> > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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