Thanks for that clarification. I agree that there are generally three datasources that can be used for this prefilling: the url (not applicable in the case of an app), wikidata and the monuments database (the latter is also used by erfgoedbot). I also agree that the best datasource to use, will probably depend on the country (in other countries the situation may be reverse). I think that the app should be able to use the monuments database - but I don't know if the developers give priority to wikidata or the monuments database.
Best, Lodewijk On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 1:11 PM Philip Kopetzky <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > the current upload functionality (at least for Austrian monuments) > includes the heritage ID, the short description / caption and the > commonscat if one is available, otherwise the commonscat for heritage > monuments of the municipality. When you look at > https://www.wikidaheim.at/Q692625 for example, you'll see that the > monuments have an already prefilled uploadlink that also includes the > caption: > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:uploadWizard?campaign=wlm-at&fields[]=153&captionlang=en&uselang=en&caption=Friedhofskapelle&descriptionlang=de&description=Friedhofskapelle&categories=Cultural+heritage+monuments+in+Karr%C3%B6sten > > The caption/description is only available in Wikipedia lists via the > ErfgoedBot and not necessarily Wikidata, so the best datasource for > established heritage projects is probably said bot's database, as it > regularly goes through the Wikipedia lists and those are kept up to date > (contrary to Wikidata). > > BR, > Philip > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 19:48, effe iets anders <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Philip, >> >> just to improve my understanding: what do you see as fundamentally >> different between using the app, and using any other upload method? The app >> developers are still working on integrating a campaign mode into the app, >> so there is some wiggle space in how to make that happen (although I don't >> want to speak for them, that is my best understanding). There would have to >> be at least the same amount of autofill information in the app as there is >> currently in the form, either straight from wikidata/monuments database or >> with a bot afterwards. >> >> You do touch on a relevant issue: what data is most accurate to use. This >> is probably a question that lands differently from country to country. We >> may want to dig a bit deeper in general into how to improve this process. >> But that is beyond what we can expect from the app :) >> >> Best, >> Lodewijk >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:39 PM Philip Kopetzky < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Krishna, >>> >>> which data is this based on and how will the campaign data be filled >>> from the android app? As far as I'm aware, there's no automatism to prefill >>> said data and it would be quite an additional burden on volunteers to have >>> to sift through pictures uploaded via the app that are missing categories >>> and descriptions that are otherwise prefilled. >>> >>> If the source used is indeed Wikidata, at least in Austria that data >>> hasn't been accurate ever since Wikimania Montreal. >>> >>> BR, >>> Philip >>> >>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 20:04, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:33 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Please check the following message from Wikimedia Commons Android app >>>>> team, regarding WLM integration into the app. >>>>> >>>>> (I am forwarding, as Josephine was unable to post to the list.) >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Josephine Lim <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Bcc: >>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 03:48:12 +1000 >>>>> Subject: WLM integration in Commons app >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that we are planning to implement WLM >>>>> integration into the Commons app (an Android app for users to upload >>>>> photos >>>>> to Commons) in the near future. :) Due to the current situation, we are >>>>> unable to provide concrete estimates for when it will be completed, >>>>> however >>>>> I can say that September is unlikely, November might be possible, and in >>>>> the worst case scenario it will certainly be done by 2021. >>>>> >>>>> In the next month or two, I hope to be able to provide more details >>>>> and a clearer timeline, and we will also start taking suggestions from >>>>> organizers etc for desired features at that stage. I will post an update >>>>> here as soon as possible. >>>>> >>>>> We look forward to working with all of you to make WLM participation >>>>> easier. :) >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Josephine / User:misaochan (Commons app project lead) >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > >
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