Hi Lodewijk, Wikidata would be the easiest for us as we already have Wikidata integration, however we are definitely open to using the monuments database if the community reaches a consensus that that is the best choice of data source. It should be fine for us to implement that as long as there is an accessible endpoint that we can use.
Best regards, Josephine On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 07:49, effe iets anders <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for that clarification. > > I agree that there are generally three datasources that can be used for > this prefilling: the url (not applicable in the case of an app), wikidata > and the monuments database (the latter is also used by erfgoedbot). I also > agree that the best datasource to use, will probably depend on the country > (in other countries the situation may be reverse). I think that the app > should be able to use the monuments database - but I don't know if the > developers give priority to wikidata or the monuments database. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 1:11 PM Philip Kopetzky <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Lodewijk, >> >> the current upload functionality (at least for Austrian monuments) >> includes the heritage ID, the short description / caption and the >> commonscat if one is available, otherwise the commonscat for heritage >> monuments of the municipality. When you look at >> https://www.wikidaheim.at/Q692625 for example, you'll see that the >> monuments have an already prefilled uploadlink that also includes the >> caption: >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:uploadWizard?campaign=wlm-at&fields[]=153&captionlang=en&uselang=en&caption=Friedhofskapelle&descriptionlang=de&description=Friedhofskapelle&categories=Cultural+heritage+monuments+in+Karr%C3%B6sten >> >> The caption/description is only available in Wikipedia lists via the >> ErfgoedBot and not necessarily Wikidata, so the best datasource for >> established heritage projects is probably said bot's database, as it >> regularly goes through the Wikipedia lists and those are kept up to date >> (contrary to Wikidata). >> >> BR, >> Philip >> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 19:48, effe iets anders <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Philip, >>> >>> just to improve my understanding: what do you see as fundamentally >>> different between using the app, and using any other upload method? The app >>> developers are still working on integrating a campaign mode into the app, >>> so there is some wiggle space in how to make that happen (although I don't >>> want to speak for them, that is my best understanding). There would have to >>> be at least the same amount of autofill information in the app as there is >>> currently in the form, either straight from wikidata/monuments database or >>> with a bot afterwards. >>> >>> You do touch on a relevant issue: what data is most accurate to use. >>> This is probably a question that lands differently from country to country. >>> We may want to dig a bit deeper in general into how to improve this >>> process. But that is beyond what we can expect from the app :) >>> >>> Best, >>> Lodewijk >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:39 PM Philip Kopetzky < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Krishna, >>>> >>>> which data is this based on and how will the campaign data be filled >>>> from the android app? As far as I'm aware, there's no automatism to prefill >>>> said data and it would be quite an additional burden on volunteers to have >>>> to sift through pictures uploaded via the app that are missing categories >>>> and descriptions that are otherwise prefilled. >>>> >>>> If the source used is indeed Wikidata, at least in Austria that data >>>> hasn't been accurate ever since Wikimania Montreal. >>>> >>>> BR, >>>> Philip >>>> >>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 20:04, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:33 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please check the following message from Wikimedia Commons Android app >>>>>> team, regarding WLM integration into the app. >>>>>> >>>>>> (I am forwarding, as Josephine was unable to post to the list.) >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Josephine Lim <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Cc: >>>>>> Bcc: >>>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 03:48:12 +1000 >>>>>> Subject: WLM integration in Commons app >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wanted to let you all know that we are planning to implement WLM >>>>>> integration into the Commons app (an Android app for users to upload >>>>>> photos >>>>>> to Commons) in the near future. :) Due to the current situation, we are >>>>>> unable to provide concrete estimates for when it will be completed, >>>>>> however >>>>>> I can say that September is unlikely, November might be possible, and in >>>>>> the worst case scenario it will certainly be done by 2021. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the next month or two, I hope to be able to provide more details >>>>>> and a clearer timeline, and we will also start taking suggestions from >>>>>> organizers etc for desired features at that stage. I will post an update >>>>>> here as soon as possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> We look forward to working with all of you to make WLM participation >>>>>> easier. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Josephine / User:misaochan (Commons app project lead) >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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