I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters conference served only vegan food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian delegates either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know whom to please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally aware idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania in Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not. On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, "Craig Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote: > The problem with what you're proposing is that everyone has something they > don't want to see, and sooner or later you'll annoy someone by omitting > something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in > Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to > have fish on a Friday. > > You simply can't make everyone happy. > > On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers <[email protected] >wrote: > >> The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that "future >> Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other "culturally >> sensitive" dates", Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam >> that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are >> exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept >> that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally >> sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first >> time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with >> a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash >> with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we >> should at least try to do this. >> >> I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork. >> But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global >> community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last >> Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with >> any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for >> sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the >> sportsphobic amongst us). >> >> WereSpielChequers >> >> On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible remark: >> >> >> >> If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the fast. >> > >> > It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during >> > Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days. >> > >> > There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the >> > Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an >> > entire year (August 2010!). >> > <http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan> >> > >> > Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still >> > partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's >> > Wikimania has already made plans to support them. >> > >> > -- >> > Casey Brown >> > Cbrown1023 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimania-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>
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