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2011/7/21 Deryck Chan <[email protected]> > I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters conference served only > vegan food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian > delegates either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know > whom to please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally > aware idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania > in Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not. > On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, "Craig Franklin" <[email protected]> wrote: > > The problem with what you're proposing is that everyone has something > they > > don't want to see, and sooner or later you'll annoy someone by omitting > > something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in > > Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to > > have fish on a Friday. > > > > You simply can't make everyone happy. > > > > On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that "future > >> Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other "culturally > >> sensitive" dates", Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam > >> that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are > >> exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept > >> that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally > >> sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first > >> time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with > >> a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash > >> with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we > >> should at least try to do this. > >> > >> I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork. > >> But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global > >> community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last > >> Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with > >> any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for > >> sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the > >> sportsphobic amongst us). > >> > >> WereSpielChequers > >> > >> On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible > remark: > >> >> > >> >> If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the > fast. > >> > > >> > It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during > >> > Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days. > >> > > >> > There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the > >> > Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an > >> > entire year (August 2010!). > >> > <http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan> > >> > > >> > Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still > >> > partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's > >> > Wikimania has already made plans to support them. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Casey Brown > >> > Cbrown1023 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimania-l mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimania-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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