Hi Itzik,

probably staff time spent on preparing/attending the conference should also
be included.

And perhaps also how much volunteers spent on attending from their own
budget (this necessarily would have to be an estimate based on flight &
accommodation). While this is no 'donor money'  it is definitely cost to
the movement.

Lodewijk


2013/8/25 Itzik Edri <[email protected]>

> Hi,
>
> I know it may be too early to ask that, but I promise to send another
> notification related this issue in the coming months :)
>
> We started last year to make the Wikimania costs more transparent.
> Wikimania is our biggest and the most expensive project. To ask our self
> "how much Wikimania costs" we can't only look on the project budget, as the
> total cost involve also scholarships (from WMF and chapters)
> and delegations of the chapters and the WMF.
>
> We have tracking pages on Meta about Wikimania 
> 2011<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Budget>and Wikimania
> 2012 <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Budget> (sadly the
> organizer team of 2012 didn't updated their costs till now...), and I
> opened a new page for Wikimania 
> 2013<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/Budget>
> .
>
> So again, I know to some of you this is too early to put the costs
> (although the size of the chapters and WMF delegation is known and could be
> update also now) - but if you can, do it now. If now, remember to do it
> what you have the numbers.
>
> The data requested is your chapter\wmf 
> delegation<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/Budget#Delegations> 
> and
> the number of 
> scholarships<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2013>your 
> chapters gave.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Itzik
>
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