On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm quite disappointed to see that the UK-based wikimania team seems to > have decided that everyone will have to get a credit card to be able to > participate wikimania. A few years back this would indeed have stopped me > from participating in Wikimania. Paypal was already a huge step for me to > take - credit card was simply impossible. > > I'm also very sorry to see that this is only surfacing now (why didn't you > ask people about this? Missed opportunity), the evil of assumptions is > indeed valid, the evil of using the organizers' ease of administation as > starting point maybe even more. > > I would like to join the chorus to allow paypal, but i would also strongly > suggest to open a separate bank account for wikimania, and allow people to > send their money there, using the invoice code you provide them in the > payment instructions as a description. I'm not convinced that mixing it > with the large amount of donations would actually be helpful (that is > asking for mixups etc). > > However - I do remember how complicated it is to set up a payment system - > even one like paypal or iDEAL that seems simple but isn't that really (you > need to track payments and confirm the payment made is matched with the > registration). > Looks like Eventbrite has made paypal a bit easier to integrate: http://help.eventbrite.com/customer/portal/articles/426298-use-paypal-to-process-orders (the openstreetmap conferences do this, using eventbrite and also allow me to send bank transfer) and http://help.eventbrite.com/customer/portal/articles/1267789-use-ideal-to-process-online-payments-for-orders I realise it's still perhaps not that simple but think it's also not that difficult. Cheers, Katie So given the short time, I think the most reasonable would be - even though > quite uncomfortable - to have cash on-site payment options. Everyone making > it to the conference will be able to handle that, the big downside is that > there are some security issues there too. The good news is you still have > two months to figure those details out. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > > > 2014-06-04 21:29 GMT+02:00 aude <[email protected]>: > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Austin Hair <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Richard Symonds >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I don't mean to sound daft, but Chip & PIN cards are (at least here) >>> > MasterCard/Visa cards with 16-digit numbers. The two are the same? >>> >>> While usually true in the U.S. and UK, this isn't the norm for most of >>> the world. (Yes, I learned this the hard way.) >>> >> >> +1 >> >> It is a headache for me to pay via credit card (send euros to the US, >> with bank fee / exchange penalty), then pay penalty again to pay in pounds >> or whatnot from US $. Doing this is a big pet peeve and only do with great >> hesitation and very good reason. >> >> Paypal is also problematic for me in europe and not an option (although >> it works for most people apparently) >> >> Bank transfer would be the way to go. (me send money to Wikimedia UK or >> somewhere trusted) >> >> quick google search finds >> http://help.eventbrite.com/customer/portal/articles/1267789-use-ideal-to-process-online-payments-for-orders >> >> would that be an option? >> >> Cheers, >> Katie >> >> >>> >>> Assumptions about the availability of various payment systems have >>> been a thorn in the side for many Wikimanias—for instance, I remember >>> having to explain that bank transfers aren't just uncommon in the >>> U.S., but actually inconvenient and often expensive. To be fair, most >>> people have never had to think about payment processing on a global >>> scale, and assumptions you learned to make five years ago may not hold >>> true today. >>> >>> I wasn't planning to pay using a credit card, but at least I'm >>> fortunate enough to have that option available to me. Many others >>> won't—the Netherlands isn't exactly a technologically isolated >>> country, but revolving lines of credit aren't something your average >>> student here will routinely have (for instance), and our banking >>> system isn't centered around the credit card network. It's not my >>> headache, this year, but I urge the organization team to reconsider >>> this decision. >>> >>> Austin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> @wikimediadc / @wikidata >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -- @wikimediadc / @wikidata
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