Call me cynical It doesnt matter what process is published now because that process will be adjusted to reflect what ever happened, thats neither fair nor transparent. Just the same as Montreal was chosen first and then we were told the process was broken and needed to be changed. This appalling process bypass occurred in discussions in Mexico City, following outrage at that a consultation appeared with a carefully chosen group, with a carefully crafted questionnaire to ensure the outcome equals what was decided earlier.
The process that started in Mexico City has created a situation where scholarships not being awarded to communities is actually a concern as being represented at Wikimania is now a critical part of being involved in future decisions affecting the community. On 14 March 2016 at 07:17, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process > and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon. > > I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping > reducing the guesswork, I think. > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > >> Hi Isaac, >> >> I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on >> top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of >> the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage. >> >> I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level >> than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than >> what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn >> there. >> >> My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more >> information. >> >> Lodewijk >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Lodewijk, >>> >>> You might be right but I don't see where it was published that >>> scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the >>> case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle >>> East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one >>> partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is >>> the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery >>> to me. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Isaac >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >>> *Sender: * effeietsand...@gmail.com >>> *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100 >>> *To: *<reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open >>> subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships >>> >>> Hi Isaac, >>> running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of >>> assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is >>> distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the >>> application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution >>> between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough >>> information to draw conclusions. >>> >>> Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed >>> through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, >>> letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an >>> active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. >>> Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a >>> selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, >>> one should include all these too. >>> >>> Lodewijk >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full >>>> scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical >>>> or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. >>>> However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the >>>> applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a >>>> Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of >>>> scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being >>>> set at 25% and 75% respectively. >>>> >>>> The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, >>>> Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South >>>> America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of >>>> Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded >>>> for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the >>>> scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, >>>> Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then >>>> no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. >>>> Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from >>>> Africa, where are the 89 scholarships? >>>> >>>> Warmest regards, >>>> >>>> Olatunde Isaac. >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexf...@gmail.com> >>>> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: >>>> Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:28:48 >>>> To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)< >>>> wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list \(open subscription\)" >>>> <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -- GN. 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