"The whole system seems to be a rude automation of some 19th century port
pass system."

- As a Canadian, I can tell you the federal government is still living in
the 19th century, or early 20th century at best.

JP



On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:56 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ha Ha!
> Very tired and completely down with a viral fever + an unexpected denial
> of an almost definitive temporary visa + realization of loss of money.
> To that miserable scenario, Ranjith's wrongly worded mail brought me some
> good laughter as I get to open the mailbox.
> Thank you Ranjith. :-)
>
> Now few facts among the many:
> 1. I have a long travel history since 1992 running through Europe,
> Americas and Middle East.
> 2. Well established reasons to show that I must / will get back to India
> after this short visit.
> 3. I hold a US B1/B2 visa valid as on date.
> 4. There is a 'clickable' and identifiable hotel booking and travel
> booking in my name.
> 5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black
> hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being
> responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to.
> The whole system seems to be
> a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.
>
> Canada, for a whole lifetime, I always adored you! But now I feel sorry
> for you!
>
> -Viswaprabha
>
> On 31 July 2017 at 10:39, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Let me correct, Viswa only has an Indian passport. I think Ranjith wanted
>> to say that Viswa's visa got rejected even though he had a Valid US visa.
>>
>> Regards
>> Satdeep Gill
>>
>> Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:21:06 +0530
>> From: Ranjith S <[email protected]>
>> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
>> from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.
>>
>> He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.
>>
>> Very sad to hear this.
>>
>> On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
>>
>> Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
>>
>> notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
>>
>> have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
>>
>> accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.
>>
>>
>> Ellie
>>
>> WMF Event Manager
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
>> [email protected]
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
>>
>> candidates this time?
>>
>>
>>
>> A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
>>
>> same on this thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
>>
>> would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
>>
>> rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
>>
>> not be able to make it, of course)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Thanks and regards,
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>> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:52:36 +0800
>> From: Josh Lim <[email protected]>
>> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections
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>> Hi Ranjith,
>>
>> Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one,
>> then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa
>> rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.
>>
>>
>> He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.
>>
>>
>> Very sad to hear this.
>>
>>
>> On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[email protected] <
>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>
>> We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
>> Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
>> notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
>> have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
>> accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.
>>
>>
>> Ellie
>>
>> WMF Event Manager
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]
>> <[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>
>> Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
>> candidates this time?
>>
>>
>>
>> A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
>> same on this thread.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
>> would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
>> rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
>> not be able to make it, of course)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>>
>> User:Rehman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman>
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>> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 23:11:31 -0400
>> From: Risker <[email protected]>
>> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections
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>> I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag.
>>
>> Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian
>> citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in
>> the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada
>> using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e.,
>> using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of
>> boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual
>> citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.
>>
>> If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a
>> Canadian
>> citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of
>> Immigration and Citizenship directly.
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
>>
>> from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.
>>
>>
>> He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.
>>
>>
>> Very sad to hear this.
>>
>>
>> On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
>>
>> Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
>>
>> notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
>>
>> have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
>>
>> accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.
>>
>>
>> Ellie
>>
>> WMF Event Manager
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
>>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
>>
>> candidates this time?
>>
>>
>>
>> A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
>>
>> same on this thread.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
>>
>> would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
>>
>> rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
>>
>> not be able to make it, of course)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>>
>> User:Rehman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman>
>>
>>
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