Visswaprabha,

'2012 Washington DC, 2014 London, 2015 Mexico.'

and for how many of those did you get a scholarship?

Kudpung

> On 30 May 2018, at 13:28, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just for the information of all those who read this thread,
> I did not get selected this year through the normal scholarship filtration 
> process. I happen to be among those who could not attend Wikimania 2017 at 
> Montreal, even after going through all these bashing and grillings and then 
> obtaining a valid scholarship last year, due to the so called 'Canadian visa' 
> problem.
> So, for me, scholarship to Wikimania 2018 was an automatic fall-in. Please 
> reset your counters.
> My total Wikimania participation till date:
> 2012 Washington DC, 2014 London, 2015 Mexico.
> 
> Regards,
> User:Viswaprabha
> 
> 
> On 30 May 2018 at 06:19, cs <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I  am also  concerned about  the same people  repeatedly receiving  
> scholarships, and this is by  no  way  of complaining  that I did  not  
> receive one.
> As I  said last year however, I  believe it  is also inappropriate  to  
> inform  applicants that  they  have been placed on  a short  list. Not only  
> does this raise false hopes, but  as many  applications are based on  the 
> users' intentions to  submit a presentation, it  incurs a serious  waste of 
> volunteers' time.
> 
> I  also  believe that  active Wikipedia users who  have financed their own 
> participation  in  the conference multiple times should also  be given 
> priority  consideration.
> 
> I  fully  understand that  the according  of scholarships is a complex and 
> difficult  task. As  a former volunteer scholarship approvals committee 
> member, I  think  I  have some experience in  these maters.
> 
> Not  one single Wikimania has been organised without  serious issues which  
> often result in  attendees’ negative experience.
> Perhaps the solution  would be to  have the entire concept  of Wikimania 
> place in  the hands of an experienced volunteer task  force of former 
> conference organizers, presenters,  and attendees who  will have learned from 
>  previous  errors and adminstartive organisational  hiccups. Funds should 
> also  be made available for  face-to-face meetings for  the organisation of 
> such  an important  event.
> 
> Having  a truly executive Board of Trustees rather than one that  simply  
> rubber stamps the way  the WMF works, in  this and most  other areas, may  be 
> a step  towards addressing  these issues.
> 
> Kudpung
> 
>> On 30, May2018, at 01:59, Gheorghe Zugravu <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 29.05.2018 20:33, praveenp wrote:
>>> I haven't seen any attempt to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired
>>> from Wikimania to community through mailing list or wiki. Users
>>> including me generally feel that community is being mocked on.
>> 
>> Hi to all,
>> without being too original here, and following praveenp comments - would
>> be good to encourage recipients of WMF scholarship to organize some type
>> of Wikimania follow-up activities back in their groups or chapters.
>> 
>> I do believe that most of them are doing it anyway without any
>> requirements from WMF, but if majority would  do it - we could have
>> something as a ”permanent Wikimania” unfolding globally for a couple of
>> months after the official Wikimania.
>> 
>> regards,
>> /gheorghe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As I have said last year, this is not a complaint that I didn't get
>>> selected. This is not personal. This is about same persons receiving
>>> Wikimania scholarship year after year repeatedly. I am just using
>>> familiar user names from a familiar community, who got many repeated
>>> scholarships.
>>> 
>>> Even after I argued that none of these 'permanent scholarship
>>> receivers' sharing anything to community, I haven't seen any attempt
>>> to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired from Wikimania to community
>>> through mailing list or wiki. Users including me generally feel that
>>> community is being mocked on.
>>> 
>>> I tried to keep myself away from local discussion about this, but
>>> injustice is so clear. And nobody is ready to discuss it openly, most
>>> probably because of the 'incompetency shaming' in almost all replies.
>>> 
>>> ~user:Praveenp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday 29 May 2018 11:19 PM, Lodewijk wrote:
>>> Given the context of the previous email you sent, I am assuming this
>>> is more a complaint that you didn't get selected than that the other
>>> two got selected. 
>>> 
>>> Similarly to the previous time you tried to have this discussion - I
>>> feel uncomfortable to make this about individuals. 
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to give rejected applicants more feedback on which
>>> factors play a main role, so that they can learn from it, especially
>>> if there is something they could improve in their application. I would
>>> add two sidenotes here though: it should only be provided on request
>>> (no need to rub people's noses into something unnecessarily) and it
>>> seems only viable at a level that can be easily extracted from the
>>> process (high level). 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps someone who knows the scholarship committee's work intimately
>>> could comment. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:21 AM, praveenp <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the
>>> tradition[1] of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two
>>> permanent Wikimania attendees, by selecting both of them.
>>> 
>>> Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also.
>>> 
>>> [1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons every year" thread,
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html 
>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html>
>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html 
>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2017-May/008026.html>>
>>> 
>>> ~User:Praveenp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday 15 May 2018 11:19 PM, Ellie Young wrote:
>>> *
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the
>>> upcomingWikimania '18  which is being held July 18-22 in Cape Town,
>>> South Africa.
>>> 
>>> WMF Scholarship Program:  135 people were offered and subsequently
>>> accepteda full or partial scholarship to attend.  The awardees are
>>> listed by usernames and the list is posted
>>> here:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars>Submissions:
>>>  
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars%3Chttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars%3ESubmissions:>
>>>  The program committee has just finished its review anddeliberations. 
>>> Rejections and acceptance emails  have gone out in the past week.
>>> 
>>> 95% of the accepted submissions are listed at:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program 
>>> <https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program>
>>> <https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program 
>>> <https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Plenaries and other sessions will be listed soon and a scheduled
>>> program  in June.
>>> 
>>> Registration and accommodation information is now up for everyone
>>> at:https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration<https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration>https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation<https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation>If
>>>  
>>> <https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration%3Chttps://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration%3Ehttps://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation%3Chttps://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation%3EIf>
>>> you are a scholarship or other WMF funded attendee (staff,
>>> contractor,board, etc), please wait until you hear from the WMF with
>>> your registrationand accommodation instructions.If you have any
>>> questions about the conference, please emailwikimania-info at
>>> wikimedia.org 
>>> <http://wikimedia.org/><https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>>>  <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l>>Please
>>> spread the word!!!!On behalf of the Wikimania '18 Organizing Team
>>> 
>>> Ellie YoungEvents Manager, Wikimedia
>>> Foundation<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l 
>>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l>>​
>>> 
>>> *
>> 
>> 
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