Hi Peaceray,

I just wanted to clarify one point regarding chapters and user groups.
CWUG wasn't classified as a user group instead of as a chapter because it
was more expedient, or because the Affiliations Committee is skittish about
new chapters; rather, the mandatory classification of all new groups as
user groups -- and a two-year period of activity *as a user group* before
being able to apply for recognition as a chapter -- are requirements that
have been set by the WMF Board of Trustees [1].

Cheers,
Kirill

[1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Raymond Leonard <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Pine & all,
>
> I am agreed that this has been rough & frustrating process, especially
> considering that our goal is to become a chapter & that  we got the word
> that initially becoming a user group should be more expedient. Consider
> that beyond membership goals, there are an additional six requirements
> (listed first) in common for user groups, chapters, & thematic
> organizations, & an additional six for chapters & thematic organizations.
> Here is how CWUG stack up on those requirements:
>
>
>    - *Focus:* Geographic
>    - *Mission aligned with Wikimedia Foundation:* Yes
>    - *Compliance with naming guidelines and trademark policy:* Yes
>    (signed agreement); consulted with legal team when designing CWUG logo
>    - *Information about group published on a Wikimedia wiki:* Yes
>    - *Plans for activities or efforts to advance Wikimedia projects:* Yes
>    - *Allows new members:* Yes
>    - *Two designated contacts for Wikimedia Foundation:* Yes
>    - *Legally incorporated:* In progress
>    - *Amendable bylaws approved by Affiliations Committee:* CWUG has
>    bylaws
>    - *Two years of activities prior to applying:* Starting October 2011,
>    mostly monthly activities (36 meetups or events) in Seattle; Since January
>    2012, Portland has had 30 meetups or events
>    - *Requires approval by Wikimedia Foundation Board: *WMF responsibility
>    - *Governing board elected by members, including new members:* Board
>    formed, election at end of first year (11/2015, if I am correct)
>    - *Activity and financial reports posted regularly on Meta-Wiki:*
>    Mission statement, goals, plans, & budget posted, reports coming at
>    appropriate intervals
>
> I do think that CWUG has done its due diligence thus far, given that we
> have gone beyond the requirements of a user group & that we just recently
> got the go ahead.
>
> Alex,
>
> I know that WMF has had some misgivings with the how chapters are working.
> I can see at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reports&oldid=11312318 that
> 31% of the chapters & thematic reports are overdue on their reports.
> (Bluerasberry & Pharos, if you are reading this, please light a fire under
> Wikimedia New York City, because their report was due at the end of
> October.) I know that some are years behind or just plain defunct. There
> have been reports of one chapter in turmoil, having completely voted out
> its board. I can understand why the Affiliations Committee is skittish
> about new chapters & is encouraging groups to initially start as a user
> group.
>
> However, even though "Wikimedia user groups are intended to be simple and
> flexible affiliates", it is feeling a bit broken & anything but simple. I
> know that Pine has submitted applications & documentation in a timely
> manner, but the projected time for approval that was supposed to be 2 to 4
> weeks then stretched into months. The suddenness of the grantmaking
> deadline was, well, unexpected. Had we gotten a more timely approval to
> become a user group, we would have had more time to consult or have a
> back-and-forth about the budget instead of feeling like we had to rush
> headlong into it. And for a group that yearns to become a chapter, consider
> how discouraging it is that the Step-by-step chapter creation guide
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide&oldid=8213725>
> begins with "This page is outdated ..."
>
> So please forgive us that even with you approach us with a legitimate
> concern that we need to grow our membership at first, it feels to us like
> another roadblock. Frankly, we just want to get to the point where we can
> just start moving ahead as a user group with events, partnerships, member
> recruiting, and reporting so we can further Wikipedia & the other Wikimedia
> projects. This is the fifth board that II have served on, & I know that
> while accounting & documentation are important, the thing that really
> perpetuates an organization is serving its purpose & its members. Please
> help us to expedite this process so we can turn our attention to that.
>
> Yours,
> Peaceray
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peaceray,
>>
>> I think that expanded membership and volunteer capacity is part of the
>> picture, yes.
>>
>> One thing I think we should consider discussing with WMF at a fairly high
>> level are the systematic problems we have been encountering with our
>> group's formation and funding. We have had issues with Affcom delays, WMF
>> Legal delays, Grantmaking springing a deadline on us related to the Inspire
>> campaign, and now a need to reorient our annual plan based on expectations
>> that do not appear to be documented on Meta (something that I confirmed
>> with someone who is active in another chapter). I am starting to understand
>> why chapters get so frustrated with WMF. My experience with WMF prior to
>> this has never had such a series of speedbumps, and I would like to know if
>> the Board would like me to address this series of issues that spans WMF
>> departments with WMF's new Senior Director of Community Engagement, Luis
>> Villa, who was recently promoted out of WMF's Legal department. Personally
>> I am quite frustrated at the amount of volunteer time that is being
>> expended in unproductive ways, and the systemic nature of the problems
>> suggests to me that these issues need to be addressed by someone in WMF who
>> is placed highly enough in the organization that they can streamline
>> processes and address communication issues across departments. Please let
>> me know if you would like me to set up a conversation with Luis.
>>
>> Pine
>>
>> Pine
>>
>> *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
>> our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
>> must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
>> which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
>> fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
>> know.*
>>
>> *—Catherine Munro*
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Raymond Leonard <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I think that the "Comparison of requirements for affiliation models"
>>> table in
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups/Requirements#eligibility
>>> probably applies to the WMF's current perception of us.
>>>
>>> To the point of "our priority should be expanding the number and the
>>> capacity of our volunteers," the rows at the head of the stable state that
>>> the Minimum active Wikimedia editors & Suggested minimum members are 3 & 10
>>> respectively for a Wikimedia user groups and 10 & 20 respectively for both
>>> Chapters & Thematic organizations.
>>>
>>> My takeaway from that page is that the easiest way to build credibility
>>> with WMF is to grow our recognized membership beyond the board & to
>>> implement "plans for activities or efforts to advance Wikimedia projects."
>>> We already have folks beyond the board who have worked to do this. I think
>>> our first step should be to enable & recruit them to join CWUG as members,
>>> & then to engage them.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Peaceray
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Cascadians,
>>>>
>>>> I had a conversation about our draft annual plan with Alex this
>>>> afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Alex believes that at this point in our development, our priority
>>>> should be expanding the number and the capacity of our volunteers, and that
>>>> we are too early in our development for the temporary / part-time paid
>>>> positions that we proposed in our budget. This means that our goals to
>>>> develop institutional partnerships and to do outreach work must be
>>>> significantly reduced in proportion to the capacity of our volunteer
>>>> network. We know that we have many opportunities for partnerships and
>>>> public engagement in the Cascadia region, and hopefully we will still be
>>>> able to pursue those partnerships and engagement opportunities at a low
>>>> intensity level that our volunteers can support in a sustainable way.
>>>> Again, Alex believes that our first goal should be to expand our volunteer
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>> We will need to reorient our plans and our budget to focus on
>>>> development and support of our volunteer network. I will work on redrafting
>>>> the goals, calendar, plan and budget over the course of the next week, and
>>>> have a conversation with Alex about the possible revisions next week. I
>>>> have also asked Alex to create a learning pattern that describes the
>>>> development path of organizations such as ours; I think that such a
>>>> learning pattern would have been very helpful to us when we were first
>>>> discussing our goals for this year. After the conversations with Alex have
>>>> finished, I plan to re-engage with our Board to discuss the goals and
>>>> funding that Alex and WMF feel that they are willing to support.
>>>>
>>>> I am cc'ing this email to Alex and hope that she will add any comments
>>>> or clarifications that she has. It would probably be best to direct any
>>>> questions or comments from Cascadians directly to Alex, preferably on this
>>>> list so that others can benefit from the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock
>>>> of our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water
>>>> we must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
>>>> which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
>>>> fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
>>>> know.*
>>>>
>>>> *—Catherine Munro*
>>>>
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