Am 21.06.2012 21:55, schrieb Andreas Kolbe:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Todd Allen<toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
This thread isn't about copyvios, and I don't want to get too far
afield, but I think it does kind of show the thought process here
sometimes. From my read of the discussions with that editor, as well
as the incident discussion you linked, he is being blocked not for the
deletion nominations themselves, but for making them disruptively,
both by targeting editors he disagrees with and by being abusive
during the process. As a parallel on Wikipedia, if someone has a
disagreement with another editor, and proceeds to nominate 10 of their
articles for deletion with the deletion rationale "Delete this crap by
that moron", that person could be sanctioned even if all 10 articles
really -do- need to be deleted. I don't know if that's really the
case, nor do I feel like reviewing his contributions in enough detail
to find out, but the block discussion is absolutely -not- talking
about what you said it was.
Notability is different from copyright. Copyright is fundamental. When
editors in Wikipedia have pointed out multiple copyright violations or
plagiarisms by administrators (we have had examples, up to and including
arbitrators), they have not been subject to threats, blocks and bans. I
don't think this sort of thing would fly in the English Wikipedia – not
with copyright violations.
Non-notable articles, perhaps, especially if the nomination were
accompanied by abuse. But I am honestly not aware of Pieter ever having
nominated a file with the reasoning "Delete this crap by that moron". These
are your words. And I *am* aware of admins continuously picking on him and
ganging up on him. This is not the first time this situation has arisen.
If a file is a copyright violation, it is a copyright violation.
I don't tend to interfere with that issue. But from what i noticed you
put Pieter in a very different light as i would put him. Knowing that
you are unhappy with Commons, even dragging it down to a personal level,
it isn't really surprising to me to read a comment like this.
I have to agree with Todds view that Pieter used deletion requests
against opponents on Commons in a very unconvincing fashion, only
hunting for pictures of this users. I also agree on the fact that a
(un)justified deletion request is a separate issue from "stalking"
opponents and making deletions requests purely to annoy them.
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