On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Todd Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > But in practice, we do have photos of > victims at articles such as [[Rape of Nanking]] and [[Holocaust]]. > Some of those photos are extremely disturbing. That's because the > articles are about extremely disturbing subjects.
So legal + no "consensus" to delete = keep. Fortunately "consensus" doesn't mean consensus. Unfortunately, it means something closer to mob rule. >> An article on marriage would show a video of a >> marriage's consummation. > > No, it wouldn't. The consummation of a marriage is tangentially > relevant. Photos of weddings and married couples in various cultures > would be much more relevant. The meaning of "consummation" should be > briefly touched on, but would not need anywhere near enough detail to > be an illustrated section. Why not? The consummation of a marriage certainly deserves a section in an adult version of an encyclopedia article on marriage. I don't think there should be a photograph of a consummation in Wikipedia, but then I don't think there should be an photograph of a rape in Wikipedia either, even in an adult version. (For one thing, neither illustration would do anything to enhance one's knowledge of the topic.) But what if some people want a photo and some don't? No "consensus", so we leave the photo in, right? >> An article on Russian roulette would show >> someone playing it. And so forth. > > Given that it's illegal in many areas, I would not hold out a high > likelihood of us seeing someone voluntarily release a video of it. But > let us presume that someone did. Isn't that exactly what the article > is about? Yes, it's exactly what the article is about. But the article being about something does not mean there should be a video of it. Again, I don't see what a video adds to ones understanding of the topic. >> This argument is not motivated by a desire to educate, or by educational >> competence for that matter. > > Andreas, I realize we disagree on this in a lot of ways, but I think > anyone who works on this project has a desire to educate. Well, no, not everyone who works on "this project" does. But the personal attack on you was inappropriate. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
