<rant> If WMF had a Steve Jobs on staff, everyone would hate him for making decisions without properly consulting the community, for destroying the community, for reinventing Wikimedia again, for making unpopular decisions, for making decisions behind close doors, for being an egomaniac, etc.
Heck, we cannot even get the branding right. We call our project Wikimedia Commons, Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikinews... we have a software called MediaWiki, and the whole movement is called the Wikimedia Movement. No surprise people think Wikileaks is one of ours. No surprise people cannot get these words right. There have been several suggestions for improving the branding, but every time met with strong resistance. I think Athena is a much more though-out design step for Wikipedia, and I am very much looking forward to it to happen. But as long as there is considerable backlash for something like a move from Monobook to Vector -- which, it seems, is not even regarded as a design update by most critics here -- I am wary about the social costs involved in such an update. </rant> Yes, it would be nice if it was easier to change Wikipedia. Cheers, Denny 2012/8/17 Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com>: > Never having been to design school like Amir, I can't comment on what grade > it might get. But I do like it a lot; I think it's a serious improvement > over what we use now, and incorporates design principles that we should > adopt even if we don't take the design itself. The visual elements, the > better branding and identification of sister projects, and the modern feel > / look are all elements that can be adapted. > > I'd love to see more of these complete redesign proposals with a > professional feel. The current "2012 main page redesign" proposals are > almost uniformly amateurish, and many make only the most minimal > adjustments. More importantly, they are aimed only at the main page - what > needs to be updated is really the entire thing. 10 years on and the editing > interface is still shit, and the design is still aimed at satisfying lowest > common denominator concerns. Time for a new approach, if only Wikimedia had > a Steve Jobs on staff. > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l