Zack, you may want to look up "sample bias"... Of course you don't get many complaints from the people that responded positively to the banners... On Dec 4, 2012 5:56 PM, "Zack Exley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Zack Exley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Unacceptable! > > > Sorry Max, your tone and language gave me a flashback to my demonic 3rd > grade teacher and it took a little while to recover. (I'm not joking.) > > On the topic of the "sticky" banners, I'd like to know what others think. > Starting next year, or even now, we can remove the stickiness. That will > just mean more days of banners. It's just a choice. > > To me, it's not clear which is better. Tens of thousands of donors have > filled out a survey this year after donating. We've gotten hardly a handful > of complaints. I would have expected a lot. Instead, we have lots of people > thanking us for making them see the banners, because they were happy to > learn this surprising news that we're a non-profit that runs on donations. > > Is it really so bad? Stickiness boosts donations by about 20-30%. That > means many fewer days of banners. Next year it may mean that we just show > people only one banner view all year instead of two. Or maybe 2 instead of > 4 (we don't know how it will play out yet). > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:52 AM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Zack Exley wrote: > >> > We just were playing around with the hover banners to see what kind of > >> > effect they might have. They're not up now. And probably won't come > >> back. > >> > >> Your comment reminds me of discussions from earlier this year with the > >> Editor engagement experiments (E3) team about treating Wikimedia users > as > >> colleagues, not as customers.[1] > >> > >> The auto-expand banners were unacceptable. As I'm currently viewing > >> en.wikipedia.org, the banners _continue_ to block portions of the page > >> content as I scroll down the page. This is also unacceptable. > >> > >> Enough "playing around." You're annoying readers and editors alike with > >> these banners. > >> > >> MZMcBride > >> > >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Experiments > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Zack Exley > > Chief Revenue Officer > > Wikimedia Foundation > > 415 506 9225 > > > > > > > -- > Zack Exley > Chief Revenue Officer > Wikimedia Foundation > 415 506 9225 > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
