Hi Andreas/Nemo Which column are you looking at to give you the growth numbers on those projects?
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 10 January 2013 16:24, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > David Gerard, 09/01/2013 00:32: > > > > On 8 January 2013 23:27, Kim Bruning<k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote: > >> > >> I think that the requirements for a wiki (open, welcoming, anyone can > >>> edit, > >>> eventualism) are always going to be at tension vs the requirements for > an > >>> encyclopedia (reliable, good sourcing, etc). > >>> Right now, en.wikipedia rules are more complex and potentially more > >>> strict than nupedia ever was, and we're running on inertia. > >>> > >> > >> > >> I understand the decline is similar in other wikis - that this is not > >> at all just an en:wp problem. > >> > >> How are the numbers for the other Wikipedias? How are the numbers for > >> the non-Wikipedias? > >> > > > > The main pattern, ie a turning point in 2007, is the same in all > projects, > > and almost in all language versions of them: > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.**htm< > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.htm> > > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/**wiktionary/EN/**PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.* > > *htm< > http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.htm> > > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/**wikiquote/EN/**PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.** > > htm< > http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.htm> > > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/**wikisource/EN/**PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.* > > *htm< > http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/PlotsPngWikipediansEditsGt5.htm> > > (in order of project size/pageviews; graphs don't include recent data, > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/42318< > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42318>) > > Typically the pattern is the same across all projects in the same > > language. (Almost?) all Russian projects, for instance, are an exception > to > > decline. > > This has often made people wonder if the causes are external (Facebook? > > Facebook is also almost non-existing in Russia, right?). > > > > Nemo > > > > > Actually, Nemo, I don't think that is right at all. If you look at the > German, Spanish or French Wikipedia, for example, the German and Spanish > are totally stable, with no decline at all discernible around 2007, while > editor numbers for the French Wikipedia are actually growing: > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaFR.htm > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaDE.htm > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaES.htm > > Summaries and charts for all projects are available here: > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm > > These three projects are of a similar age to the English Wikipedia, and > they are definitely not following the same editor retention pattern at all. > > I don't know the French and Spanish Wikipedias well, but the German > Wikipedia also generally seems more scholarly than the English one. > > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
