On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Last year's financial report shows almost exactly $2.5m for "Internet > hosting". I'm not sure quite what that covers Only data-center usage (facilities, bandwidth, power). It does not include capital expenditures (servers, storage, network gear, etc.; budgeted at $1.9M in 2012-13) nor ops engineering staffing, nor of course any software engineering staffing or the basics of an organizational support structure (management/administration, legal, etc.). What's a bare minimum amount? It's a hard question to answer, because it depends on what you consider an acceptable bare minimum. - Is it acceptable for the projects to be without legal defense? - Is it acceptable to revert back to a single data center mode of operation? - Is it acceptable for ops to just barely be able to keep the lights on, with minimal effort dedicated to backups/monitoring/maintenance, etc.? - Is it acceptable for there to be no software engineers to aid with reviewing code contributions, and making improvements to the software? and so on. WMF has operated in the past without staffing and with very minimal staffing, so clearly it's _possible_ to host a high traffic website on an absolute shoestring. But I would argue that an endowment, to actually be worthwhile, should aim for a significantly higher base level of minimal annual operating expenses, more in the order of magnitude of $10M+/year, to ensure not only bare survival, but actual sustainability of Wikimedia's mission. The "what's the level required for bare survival" question is, IMO, only of marginal interest, because it is much more desirable, and should be very much possible, to raise funds for sustaining our mission in perpetuity. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
