Charles,

I'd very much like to see such a session at Wikimedia conf. Just today we had a situation in wca where it was not clear where relevant information about a topic is to be found.

Ziko proposed a session on "Communications internally and within the movement - reaching the right people efficiently". Maybe we could do a workshop afterwards? Would you be willing to take a lead on this?

Best,
Markus

Am 03.04.2013 13:03, schrieb Charles Andres:
Thanks Mike,

I'm very much in favor of a redesign, with a reset of internal subscribers.

What about a session during wikimedia conf in Milan about improving tools for 
communication within the movement partners?

Charles

Le 3 avr. 2013 à 12:34, Michael Peel <[email protected]> a écrit :

Hi all,

There's currently a proposal on the internal mailing list to close it, as well 
as the internal wiki. Although I don't disagree with closing the internal-l 
mailing list (it's definitely served its time), I would like us to collectively 
reconsider using the internal wiki.

There is information within the Wikimedia movement that can't be shared 
publicly. Some of that information has been shared on the internal wiki, but 
much has been kept confidential within the various Wikimedia organisations that 
now exist. I think there's a lot of benefit to sharing more of that information 
in a confidential fashion on an internal wiki, and that we should start doing 
that much more than we're currently doing.

Some examples of what I mean here are:
# Agreements, particularly those with global impact, and/or where they affect 
more than one Wikimedia organisation. Part of the recent 
Monmouthpedia/Gibraltarpedia situation was caused by a lack of transparency 
about who had signed what agreements, and when they had been signed - if these 
had all been shared on an internal wiki then some of this could have been 
avoided. There's also a lot of experience now with existing agreements that 
could be reused when new agreements are being written, e.g. for Wikimedians in 
Residences. Sadly, not all of these can be made publicly available (or at 
least, they haven't been to date).
# Press releases. When there's an upcoming significant press release from a 
Wikimedia organisation, then it should be good practice to share it with the 
other movement partners prior to its release, so that they are aware of it, can 
provide feedback, and can plan around it. Some of this already happens on 
wmfcc-l, but not consistently - much more could be done here.
# Domain names. There is a list of these on internal already, which is actually 
being maintained by some people. Tackling squatted domain names and keeping 
track of who owns what is a global problem that should be done collaboratively, 
but in confidence, rather than just by individual organisations.
# Contact information for the various organisations. Some of this can be done 
publicly, but not all, and it would be good to have a central place for this 
information anyway.
# Notices of sensitive activities. E.g. if there's an upcoming risk of law 
suits, infrastructure difficulties within organisations, etc. then it would be 
good to be able to share these and ask for help without publishing them to the 
world at the same time. That doesn't need a mailing list - it can be done on a 
wiki.
# … and I'm sure there's more examples that can go here, this isn't trying to 
be a complete list!

So, rather than close the internal wiki, I'd like to propose a radical redesign 
and repurposing of it. Is there the interest and willingness in the WMF and the 
chapters to share such information with each other?

Thanks,
Mike
(Note: this is a personal viewpoint, not necessarily that of WMUK.)


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