Was it an author of the article they contacted, or just a random administrator? Leo
_______________Leonard [email protected]@leo_wallentin+46 (0) 735 - 933 543 > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:44:57 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a > Wikipedia article > > Somehow it is important... Streisand effect writ large. Unless somehow it > was just a mixup, or a deliberate attempt to put a false target forward. > > Fred > > > This is seeming a little silly; it's just a big communications station. > > It's got huge radio towers and is very visible on the skyline for a > > distance. It's got a civilian radio/TV tower colocated with it. > > > > I can't see what would be sensitive in the article.. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Typical. They were not willing to tell our legal counsel why or what > >> was > >> classified; she, of course, has no French security clearance; now it is > >> spread all over an administrators noticeboard, and restored. > >> > >> They weren't wrong but neither is our legal counsel or the users; so > >> "fell between the cracks." Hopefully the matter was not too important; > >> I'm sure we have enough money to pay for relocating the facility to a > >> secure location. > >> > >> Fred > >> > >> > This is where the discussion is happening on-wiki: > >> > > >> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Bulletin_des_administrateurs#Secret_d.C3.A9fense > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hard to know what was involved from the information you provide. The > >> problem is there is classified information that amounts to nothing and > >> then there is classified information release of which can cause > >> serious damage. Defiance will eventually result in serious trouble. > >> Not that we should knuckle under to nonsense. > >> >> > >> >> Fred > >> >> > >> >> > Hi there, > >> >> > I guess you might be interested to hear that Direction Centrale du > >> Renseignement Intérieur (Central Directorate of Interior > >> >> Intelligence, > >> >> > DCRI), a French intelligence agency that reports directly to the > >> Ministry of the Interior, has apparently forced a French Wikipedia > >> administrator to delete an article that in their opinion—as I > >> understand it—revelead classified information deemed very harmful > >> >> to > >> >> > the French national defence ("compromission du secret de la > >> Défense > >> nationale"). > >> >> > > >> >> > Interestingly, they contacted the WMF legal team with a request to > >> remove (delete? suppress?) this article a couple of weeks before > >> >> that, > >> >> > but were refused after failing to provide further information on > >> why > >> the article should be removed (in the words of a Foundation legal > >> counsel). > >> >> > > >> >> > Undounted by that, they approached the said administrator — who > >> operates under his real name, so I guess it was pretty easy to track > >> him — and asked him to delete this article, a request which he > >> obliged. (The article has since been restored by a different > >> >> > administrator). As far as I understand, the version of the article > >> they wanted to have deleted was > >> >> > <https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=81104004>. > >> >> > > >> >> > I guess that when an intelligence agency asks their citizen to > >> remove information from Wikipedia citing the penal code (article > >> 413-11 of the French penal code in this case), it is something worth > >> sharing > >> >> (no > >> >> > harm intended). > >> >> > > >> >> > Further reading in English: > >> >> > * <https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=91703508> > >> * > >> <https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=91705235> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Tomasz W. Kozłowski > >> >> > a.k.a. 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