On 12 May 2013 19:44, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> wrote: > :) Yeah, pretty bad. > > The main reason I would consider WMF wiki SHOULD NOT be an entirely > staff-controlled and operated site is the fact we originally wanted it to > be at least in part multilingual. > > Current staff does not seem to be very interested in that original wish. > > Some requests for translation are sometimes made but lot's of outdated > content is still over there. Sometimes, it does not matter too much. Other > times, it is quite unfortunate. Check out for example > http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Privacy_policy<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy> > > Important ? yes > Should be translated ? I would say "yes, as much as possible" > Should old versions stick there ? I would say vehemently "no, should not" > > Still, many languages still display the old version. > The staff will hide itself behind the fact that "only the English version > matters". Which is why Dutch is still the old version: > http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Privacybeleid<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacybeleid> > Is that good ? No, I would say it is "not serious". > > Who can help clean that up ? > Well... if not the volunteers, then it would have to be the staff job. > Except I doubt the staff would consider that to be part of its job. If only > because staff does not speak 300 languages. > > What's the best way to motivate volunteers to help with translation and > update of non-English content ? I am not sure, but probably not in removing > their admin bit as if they were dangerous people. Right now, I would go as > far as saying that WMF on the contrary should look out for more people to > help clean up ;) > > How does that happen right now ? Well, volunteers do ask on meta to get an > account for WMF wiki. Where ? Here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/** > wiki/Request_for_an_account_**on_the_Foundation_wiki<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Request_for_an_account_on_the_Foundation_wiki> > > And guess who is taking care of giving them access ? > A volunteer who has the technical means to create them accounts. > Oh wait... not any more. Ah, hum. Well, I take it a staff member will do > that in the future :) > > ------- > > Alternatively, the staff, with the official support of their management > and the board can decide that the Foundation wiki should not try any more > to be translated in other languages and should stick to what it actually > is: a US-based non profit company. > > Translations may be non-official... and on meta. > > ------- > > The multilingualism we hoped so dearly has always been an issue. It is > poorly dealt with on the Wikimedia Foundation blog. Poorly dealt with on > the Foundation Wiki. Poorly dealt with on OTRS. > > :( >
For what it's worth, I did try to get some re-translation organised in early February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests/WMF and asked communications staff at the WMF for their input. To be fair to them they did say that they'd look into it and get back to me but I think they might have been swamped with other things so it was forgotten. -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
