I don't get it... What is the purpose of a temporary opt-out? I don't see what that would solve. Power users still don't have a reason to use the VE, performance is worse, handy tools are missing and a lot of things can't be done easily with VE.
> As others have explained better than I, we think that users will be > ill-served by this opt-out, and I hope that as few users as possible will > choose this way to degrade their experience and deprive the community of > their input. Instead of endlessly arguing the point about this, I'd rather > my team and I spending our time working to make our sites better. With such lousy replies I hope that as much as users would opt-out to give a signal that a different approach from developers/WMF is needed for local communities. And read please also http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-July/127111.html Perhaps that will give an idea why many users want an opt-out. Romaine James Forrester jforrester at wikimedia.org Wed Jul 24 01:56:16 UTC 2013 On 23 July 2013 00:01, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote: > > As I've noted in my response to wikitech-l just now, there's also the > > issue of what "opt-out" should mean as VE becomes increasingly more > > pervasive in the user experience. > > > > But as I've noted in [1], I do not think a compromise on the > > preference question is necessarily out of reach. I've asked James and > > team to deliberate on some of the possibilities here, and offered the > > same suggestion I noted in [1]. > > > > [As just posted to wikitech-l] > > Because I understand the level of concern that this matter is causing, I am > changing my mind on this. For the duration of VisualEditor's "beta" period, > there will be an opt-out user preference. This will be deployed tomorrow > morning, San Francisco time. Once VisualEditor is out of 'beta', this > preference will be removed. > > As others have explained better than I, we think that users will be > ill-served by this opt-out, and I hope that as few users as possible will > choose this way to degrade their experience and deprive the community of > their input. Instead of endlessly arguing the point about this, I'd rather > my team and I spending our time working to make our sites better. > > Yours, > -- > James D. Forrester > Product Manager, VisualEditor > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > jforrester at wikimedia.org | @jdforrester _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
