What about making it simply global...? Balázs 2013.08.30. 2:44, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> ezt írta:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > > > > > The first section was removed? I got excited to see the term "Global > > South" with a line through it (in the agenda index), but I think I > > initially misunderstood its meaning. > > > No, the strikethrough was a visual cue that the _term_ "Global South" is > emphatically not on the agenda. > > > > The term "Global South" is pretty > > awful and deserves a quick death. > > > Agreed... > > > > But based on the title of the > > presentation and this e-mail thread... I'm not hopeful that it's dead > yet. > > > > ...but what do we replace it with? This has been rehashed quite a bit, but > no one has come up with a compelling alternative that's reasonably concise > and is politically acceptable. (Personally I am happy with "developing > world" and "developing nations", but of course those terms are euphemistic > as well, and apparently no longer acceptable in some circles.) > > I have stated before that the term, for us, is just shorthand for a list of > countries, and we make no essentialist assumptions about some uniformity > throughout all these countries. It is my understanding that most of the > consternation (kittens dying etc.) the term causes is due to the assumption > that we _are_ making an essentialist assumption and treating all GS > countries the same. I hope it is by now evident we are not. > > Once again, I find no point to debating this. All who _are_ interested are > welcome to hash it out somewhere, and submit a consensual term (or a > shortlist) to WMF for consideration. If a superior term arises, I promise > to make an effort to adopt it across WMF. Until then, let's focus on the > actual work rather than the nomenclature. > > > > I'm a little confused about whether the ongoing programs in Brazil and > > India will continue. There's a note that reads "No WMF contractors on the > > ground any more", but it's unclear whether this means a discontinuation > of > > the current folks. And the final slides focus on future engagements. Does > > the "no contractors on the ground" line mean only full-time staff will be > > working with (engaging with, if you prefer) areas in the future? > Full-time > > staff and local chapter folks, I guess? And simply no Wikimedia > Foundation > > contractors? > > > > There are no WMF employees outside the US, so "no contractors on the > ground" (in the GS context -- we still have engineers around the world!) > means that (once the Brazil transition is complete -- this is in progress), > no program work in the GS will be done by WMF contractors, but only by > local partners (movement affiliates -- chapters, thematic organizations, > and user groups -- and unaffiliated partners), some of whom would be WMF > grantees. > > Cheers, > > A. > -- > Asaf Bartov > Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>