OP = original poster, Rui

> Sorry but I don't what/who OP is.
>
> And you still misunderstand. This is not a question about consensus over
> some article, it is about normal human behaviour, and that it sometimes
> is not there. If you haven't seen that happening I don't know where you
> have been looking. I think you paint an idealistic and rosy picture of
> the life in the Wikis that many users don't recognize.
>
> Regards,
> Lars Gardenius
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  Von: Marc A. Pelletier <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Gesendet: 18:05 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
> Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself
>
>
> On 09/05/2013 11:49 AM, Lars Gardenius wrote:
>> But if your child is mobbed at a Wiki when he/she tries to contribute,
>> or your grandmother is being abused when she contributes to a Wiki, you
>> want somewhere to turn. As said there is no such instance in the Wikis,
>> there is noone responsible how people are treated and mistreated in the
>> Wikis.
>
> You start from the presumption that those things usually or often happen
> for reasons other than trying to push something through against
> consensus.  I have rarely seen that happening (and no, the OP is not an
> example -- if anything he's an excellent counterexample).
>
> Mind you, there are often cases where the newbie is going against
> consensus but doesn't know it.  This is a case for user education.
>
> We /do/ have a problem with the way much of the community handles new
> editors, but the existing mechanism in place /do/ work for the most part
> (at least, for the more egregious examples).  The rest is a cultural
> problem that no enforcement body could fix; you don't make people nice
> by beating them up.
>
> -- Marc
>
>
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