In a period where all the fund dissemination of the movement is driven by the 
question "what's the impact on wikimedia project" and a community-driven 
process, I would suggest that any redistribution of the funds done by the WMF 
would follow the same rules.


Charles



Le 15 avr. 2014 à 21:57, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> a écrit :

> Hi Erik,
> 
> I'd say 'maybe'. I think this sort of work is worth supporting in general, 
> but the question should be whether providing the support would improve the 
> content and/or provision of the Wikimedia projects. I'd like to see a good 
> community-driven process that would determine whether such sponsorship would 
> be helpful or whether it would be a waste of money.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> On 15 Apr 2014, at 20:50, Erik Moeller <e...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the
>> extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work
>> that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a
>> specific goal established in a grant agreement.
>> 
>> This comes up from time to time. One of the few historic precedents
>> I'm aware of is the $5,000 donation that WMF made to FreeNode in 2006
>> [1]. But there are of course many other organizations/communities that
>> the Wikimedia movement is indebted to.
>> 
>> On the software side, we have Ubuntu Linux (itself highly indebted to
>> Debian) / Apache / MariaDB / PHP / Varnish / ElasticSearch / memcached
>> / Puppet / OpenStack / various libraries and many other dependencies [2],
>> infrastructure tools like ganglia, observium, icinga, etc. Some of
>> these projects have nonprofits that accept and seek sponsorship and
>> support, some don't.
>> 
>> One could easily expand well beyond the software we depend on
>> server-side to client-side open source applications used by our
>> community to create content: stuff like Inkscape, GIMP and LibreOffice
>> (used for diagrams). And there are other communities we depend on,
>> like OpenStreetMap.
>> 
>> So, should we steer clear of this type of sponsorship altogether
>> because it's a slippery slope, or should we try to come up with
>> evaluation criteria to consider it on a case-by-case basis (e.g. is
>> there a trustworthy non-profit that has a track record of
>> accomplishment and is in actual need of financial support)?
>> 
>> I could imagine a process with a fixed "giving back" annual budget
>> and a community nominations/review workflow. It'd be work to create
>> and I don't want to commit to that yet, but I would be interested to
>> hear opinions.
>> 
>> MariaDB specifically invited WMF to become a sponsor, and we're
>> clearly highly dependent on them. But I don't think it makes sense for
>> us to just write checks if there's someone who asks for support and
>> there's a justifiable need. However, if there's broad agreement that
>> this is something Wikimedia should do more of, then I think it's worth
>> developing more consistent sponsorship criteria.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Erik
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Freenode_Donation
>> [2] Cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upstream_projects
>> -- 
>> Erik Möller
>> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>> 
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