Hello,

I began to write a new thread about spam control, then remembered this
recent one on a similar topic.

Integrating spam control more deeply into all of our tools and
services - including particularly MediaWiki - is important for many
audiences.

Is there an overview of current anti-spam tech (for MW in particular,
but related: for our preferred Ticket-handling and Mailing-list
toolchains), and projected roadmaps?  Comparisons with the best known
proprietary tools, to see what remains to be built?   This strikes me
as something that we and the FSF and other groups could collaborate
on.

Sam

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tilman Bayer <tba...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi Cristian,
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Cristian Consonni
> <kikkocrist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-04-18 0:46 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>:
>>> * There is a specific need, a conference we could support, a developer
>>> event or something we could help out with. There is a clear goal, and it is
>>> one-time. We have a clear benefit. For example: helping OTRS to become less
>>> messy.
>>
>> [OT]
>> As a Wikimedia list moderator (just a couple, the Wiki Loves Monuments
>> ones) I am ready to pay gold for anything that would reduce the amount
>> of spam in the queues be it a better spam filter, a system to delete
>> spam from multiple lists at once, magic or whatever!
>>
>> Cristian
>> p.s.: "pay gold" is a figure of speech, but I would definitely
>> personally support such a project!
>
> yeah, as moderator on some other lists, I share your feelings about
> spam. Note though that SpamAssassin is already running in our Mailman
> installation [...]
>
> The current blocker is that it is generating some false positives,
> i.e. someone would need to spend time to tweak and test the settings:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56525
>
> So it looks we have to some of our own homework first here. But if it
> turns out that there are limitations in SpamAssassin which we could
> help them overcome to make it more effective for our purposes, that
> might be a very good use of donor money.
>
> (As an example concerning your suggestion for "a system to delete spam
> from multiple lists at once": I'm not sure if SpamAssassin is
> currently integrated with Mailman in a way that enables it to learn
> from list moderator actions immediately. See e.g.:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpamAssassin#Bayesian_filtering
> http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ --> "The Future" )

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