Hi Pete - I was using oversight rather loosely to mean "there's a body of people looking over the process sufficient to catch any terrific fumbles before they get out of the gate," rather than any stricter sense of the term. I view the scrutiny of a reasonable number of other Wikimedians as a form of oversight, even without a hierarchical structure in place. I would say that ITN or DYK on ENWP have reasonable oversight (although it certainly sometimes fails,) but don't view a process that needs 1-2 people to promote something to a highly viewed mainpage as having reasonable oversight.
Best, Kevin Gorman Wikipedian-in-Residence UC Berkeley On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com>wrote: > Kevin, > > I didn't think you were using "oversight" in the MediaWiki jargon sense. > But I do think the concept of oversight -- as distinct from consideration, > discussion, deliberation, or consensus-building -- is very disconnected > from the present reality. What authority would be claimed in conducting > this oversight, and what set of rules would be enforced? > > Pete > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Heh, I probably shouldn't have chosen a word with two more or less > > contradictory ideas that also refers to a mediawiki userright. I meant > > oversight as in scrutiny by other Wikimedians to ensure the process > doesn't > > go off the rails, not oversight as in negligence or oversight as in what > we > > do to especially nasty content instead of revdel. (I would consider any > > process that gets large graphics on to prominent pages on the projects > with > > so few checks on it as lacking sufficient oversight.) > > > > ----- > > Kevin Gorman > > Wikipedian-in-Residence > > UC Berkeley > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > there's something seriously weird about the fact that a project that > > all > > > > other projects depend on has the media it displays on it's front page > > > > selected by pretty much one person with no > > > > > > > > > I was with you up until the last word. Did you really mean: > > > > > > > > > > oversight. > > > > > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > -Pete > > > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
