I'll bet you have never tried to edit Wikipedia on an iPad 2014-06-01 20:25 GMT+02:00, Rui Correia <correia....@gmail.com>: > Jane > > I think we are talking about two different things. Ownership of or access > to equipment with access to the internet is not the same thing as we are > talking about. If anything, the fact that more women own any such equipment > only goes to reinforce what we already know, which is that not many girls/ > women are taking part in editing the Wikipedia. > > Rui > > > 2014-06-01 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com>: > >> Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my personal circle of >> female friends, most of them only interact with a smartphone or tablet >> and though they may own a full-fledged computer, they only interact >> with that machine for certain boring and obligatory tasks such as >> filing taxes and printing. This is in and of itself, a reason not to >> edit, in my mind. Research into the use of tablets in 2012 in the >> Netherlands did indicate that more women were active on them than men, >> and a simple google search picked this 2013 BBC article up about the >> same holding true for women in the UK: >> "Women own most of the UK's tablet computers says study" >> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-23355944 >> >> Disclaimer: I am a frequent user of an iPad-1 that my mother (of all >> people!) gave me for my birthday. >> >> 2014-06-01 8:52 GMT+02:00, ENWP Pine <deyntest...@hotmail.com>: >> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 06:39:38 +0100 >> >> From: Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> >> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation [WAS: The first >> >> three weeks] >> >> Message-ID: >> >> < >> cah7nnd3meyllrfd+sss-trsajxrreq0uidom07m_9nx-oiq...@mail.gmail.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> On 1 June 2014 04:26, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ... >> >> >>... selects strongly against women. >> >> > >> >> > Where is the evidence that women have more difficulty understanding >> >> > wikitext than men? >> >> >> >> (Probably drifting to "Increase participation by women") >> >> >> >> As someone who has run editathons on women focused topics, I found >> >> this an odd comment that does not match anecdotal experience. New >> >> women users seem little different to men in the issues that arise, and >> >> though I have found myself apologising for the slightly odd syntax, >> >> given the standard crib-sheet most users get on with basic article >> >> creation quite happily. >> >> >> >> There are far more commonly raised issues such as the complex issues >> >> associated with image upload (copyright!), or the conceptual >> >> difficulty of "namespaces" which mean that some webpages behave >> >> differently to others. None is something that appears to "select >> >> strongly against women", though the encyclopedia's way of defining >> >> notability can make it harder to create articles about pre-1970s >> >> professional women, purely because sources from earlier periods tend >> >> to be biased towards men. >> >> >> >> If there are surveys that wiki-syntax is more of a barrier for women >> >> than men (after discounting out other factors), perhaps someone could >> >> provide a link? >> >> >> >> Fae >> > >> > FWIW, I think that Lila said at the Zurich hackathon that she had found >> > research indicating that fewer women click the "edit" button than men >> > do. >> > That sounds like a phenomenon that could use some research and >> > experimentation. >> > >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014-05-10_Wikimedia_Hackathon_Lila_Tretikov.webm >> > >> > >> > Also, the Individual Engagement Grants Committee and WMF have funded a >> > research project in this IEG round focused on women's participation. >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia >> > >> > Pine >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > _________________________ > Rui Correia > Advocacy, Human Rights, Media and Language Work Consultant > Bridge to Angola - Angola Liaison Consultant > > Mobile Number in South Africa +27 74 425 4186 > Número de Telemóvel na África do Sul +27 74 425 4186 > _______________ > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
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