Hi Anders, for my understanding, could you give a few examples of what kind of datatypes are still missing that you would need (ideally datatypes I can actually understand).
Thanks! Lodewijk 2014-06-16 16:20 GMT+02:00 Anders Wennersten <[email protected]>: > Just a few examples. > *It takes up to 6 months and a lot of argumentations to get a new datatype > defined. If you are commited you succeed but if it just need it but do not > have the time, you fail > *The discussions among the Wikidatapeople are most trying > *The data and datatypes are not stable. Suddenly someone can suggest that > a bunch of existing datatypes are redifined/deleted even if it makes > invested code using these obsolete (it has become better this year) > *A lot of critical functionality is missing, and even when said it is > released there are still restrictions (that "soon" will be fixed) > *The small number of people understanding the intricicies of Wikidata. On > svwp there are just 4-7 who really worked with wikidata and at least one > has now left because of the longdrawn discussions on Wikdata > > We can use some dataelements from Wikidata in some articles, but not a > commit a set of articles to Wikidata which our botefforts requires (where > you need to be 100% sure of the quality and be able to correct these > automatically if problems) > > Anders > > David Cuenca skrev 2014-06-16 15:40: > > It would be interesting to know what needs to be improved, so... what >> prevented you of using the data? >> And from which different perspectives? >> >> Cheers, >> Micru >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Anders Wennersten < >> [email protected] >> >>> wrote: >>> we have now spent one year trying to use Wikidata operationally, in our >>> botprojects, but found it is impossible in the state it is now, from many >>> perspectives. It has been a big disappointment but we hope it will look >>> better a year from now >>> Anders >>> >>> >>> >>> Gerard Meijssen skrev 2014-06-16 12:44: >>> >>> Hoi, >>> >>>> I blogged about Lsjbot.. [1]. I really hope that a lot of attention is >>>> given in finding the links to existing items in Wikidata. >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/06/wikipedia- >>>> to-bot-or-not-to-bot.html >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 June 2014 12:25, Anders Wennersten <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> After having changed job and residence Sverker is now on it again. >>>> This >>>> >>>>> time Lsjbot will generate some 300 000 articles on plant species. The >>>>> initiative is now receiving full support and even enthusiasm from the >>>>> fellow wikipedians on svwp >>>>> >>>>> It is now close to one year since the 1M article on insects, animal etc >>>>> was generated and we now have had some feedback whereof I here give >>>>> some >>>>> examples >>>>> *The students on a university veterinary course was given the >>>>> assignment >>>>> to write article on parasitic worms and put them up om Wikipedia. These >>>>> became excellent: complete and voluminous. This was in many way >>>>> helped/made >>>>> possible by that there already existed Lsjbot stubs with complete >>>>> Taxobox, >>>>> iw-links, categories and basic sources. The students are expert on >>>>> subjects >>>>> not the wikispecialities >>>>> *the experts on animal etc among our Wikipedians has now shifted focus. >>>>> There are species where the authorities disagree on the taxonomy and >>>>> here >>>>> Lsjbot did not generate any article. among birds there are some 500 >>>>> disputed species. These articles our experts now work with, >>>>> highlighting >>>>> the disputes, why, what and by whom. And when we compare these >>>>> manually >>>>> created articles we find that on most other language versions, these >>>>> only >>>>> take data from one authority and are not correctly describing the >>>>> dispute. >>>>> Perhaps svwp will after this not only be most complete but also most >>>>> correct version on species? >>>>> >>>>> As a side effect (not a goal in itself) we expect svwp to be the second >>>>> biggest version, when it comes to number of articles, by >>>>> August/September >>>>> >>>>> And when it comes to botgeneration in general, we are continuing our >>>>> researcheffort into generate some 0,3-0,5 M articles on geographic >>>>> entities >>>>> from all over the world by end 2015/2016 using Wikidata as a source. >>>>> >>>>> Anders >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
