A Dutch politician once said in a presentation: 'Sometimes citizens
come to us and say: You don't listen. Then I answer: Well, we do
listen, but we also listen to the millions of inhabitants who have
other opinions.'
Kind regards
Ziko
2014-08-13 22:47 GMT+02:00 Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net>:
>
> On 13 Aug 2014, at 21:12, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is no such thing as "the community"; we have a huge collection of
>>> communities joined loosely over a number of ambigously shared principles
>>> that often - but not always - move in more or less the same direction.
>>>
>>> Anyone who claims to speak for "the community" is - put simply - full of
>>> shit.
>>>
>>
>> So very true! All of the arguments that claim knowledge of what "the
>> community" wants, or what "the readers" want, need to be regarded with a
>> strong dose of skepticism, or put aside entirely.
>
> {{citation needed}}
>
> There are some community members who spend a lot of time thinking about what
> "the community" and "the readers" may want, who actually have a good
> understanding of what is needed to support those stakeholders. There are
> others that say that their views represent the community/readers when they
> don't. A distinction needs to be made there - don't confuse the former with
> the latter.
>
> Additionally: there is no guarantee that what has worked well in the past
> will continue to work well in the future. The internet is always changing and
> improving, and a lot of organisations that dominated a decade ago now only
> exist in historical record. Wikimedia really needs to match the current state
> of the art, otherwise it will likely also cease to exist. I'd like to see the
> Wikimedia community leading the way with the internet's development, but
> right now it feels like it's lagging by about a decade, and the WMF is having
> to play a leading role to keep it relevant. If the Wikimedia community can
> catch up with the current state of the internet, that would be great, but if
> it can't then supporting the WMF while it does so would make a lot of sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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