On Oct 30, 2014 6:06 AM, "James Alexander" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500
> > Yana Welinder <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark
> > > status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy:
> > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy.
> > >
> >
> > Thank you, Yana.
> >
> > However, as someone who understand little about copyright and
> > trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used
> > commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in
> > any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific
> > visual guidelines.
> >
> > Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on
> > http://freedomdefined.org) or not?
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> I don't think Erik was completely thinking about trademarks when he wrote
> that but I would say no, essentially nothing covered by a trademark  would
> completely meet that definition. (and there would be major issues in my
> mind with not covering our major logos by trademark) Even the Creative
> Commons logos doesn't (for that matter I don't think the CC Logo is even
> under a CC License, at least not a by-sa one).

The license is clear, and wmf is an expert in these licenses . So a
previous trademark is void in the respect where it restricts what is
defined in the license?

Rupert
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