Am I the only one that sees the irony in asking folks not to pick on the Commons community, then immediately asserting that enwp is the source of all drama?
Cheers, Craig Franklin On 12/12/2014 4:56 PM, "Pipo Le Clown" <plecl...@gmail.com> wrote: > As you said, the first issue of Commons is "demotivating contributors". And > this thread is actually doing a good job at it... > > STOP the Commons bashing. Stop calling Commons contributors "anal > retentive" or "fussy neckbeards". > > I'm an european. In Europe, one does not call another "nazi", as Americans > do. It's insulting. Do you see people coming to Wikimedia-l when an > american contributor calls someone a nazi (because they do) ? > > No. There are places on projects to deal with those kind of situations > (even if they do not work properly imo). > > As there are places on Commons to discuss about the scope, the way we > should handle copyright, etc. Nobody is preventing you to go to this places > and start a discussion, share your thoughts and your wishes. > > To be clear: Wikimedia is not only ENWP. Other wikipedias and projects are > using Commons every day. But the drama always come from ENWP... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Steven Walling <steven.wall...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 12:40:09 PM Pipo Le Clown <plecl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I'm on the road every two weekends, and processing pictures the rest of > > the > > > time on my free time. I've provided around 8000 pictures to Commons, > and > > > helped to have pictures for articles like Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy > Hogdson > > or > > > Greig Laidlaw... > > > > > > Just to read that I'm a fascist and an "anal retentive" because someone > > > proposed a fucking picture of KitKat for deletion ? It was not even > > > deleted, the discussion is still going on. And even if it was, the > right > > > place to go would have been COM:UDR, with a strong rationale, where > > people > > > would have discuss it in a civilised manner. Not in this echo > chamber... > > > > > > So yes, one could say that the thread "was accusatory from the start, > and > > > quickly went to vicious". One could also say that this is a fucking > > > disgrace. > > > > > > Pleclown > > > > > > > To be crystal clear: I didn't link to the DR or mention the nominator > > because I don't actually care much about the individual instance. > > Commons is going to do what it's going to do, and whomever nominated it > or > > comments in support of deletion is just doing what the policies of > Commons > > is telling them to do. > > > > The problem is a general one with the goals of Commons, what the > community > > focuses (and doesn't focus on), as I said. I think it should be clear > that > > the purpose of discussing it on Wikimedia-l as opposed to Commons is talk > > about whether Commons is doing a good job of serving as the media > > repository for other projects. Not about whether the nominator was > correct > > in this individual case or something like that. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Okay, guys, let's all take a step back and remember [[WP:Civility]]. > > > > (Yeah, I know that's a Wikipedia pillar, but can't we all at least > get > > > > on board with that one?) > > > > > > > > The tone of this thread was accusatory from the start, and quickly > > > > went to vicious. Maybe everyone can try it again with a bit of AGF. > > > > > > > > Austin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, James Alexander < > jameso...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> P.S. Stephen, you are young and handsome, in fact rather dishy to > my > > > > >> ageing eyes. Good for you. Keep in mind that your fellow > volunteers > > > > >> might not have been born so lucky, and that being young and pretty > > all > > > > >> too soon passes into memory, sigh. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Fæ, this is not acceptable for the list (or for that matter on > wiki). > > > > > Stephen's neckbeard comment certainly wasn't helpful either but > it's > > no > > > > > excuse. > > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > < > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
