CC 4 is still only in two (three?) languages (Kat may want to weigh in?) so
it is premature for us to move, I think. But I'm optimistic we'll see
traction in that area soon, and then we can have a movement discussion.
Sorry that we can't force that to happen faster :)

[To be clear, as I've said on Commons, CC 4.0 is clearly already
*acceptable* for imported images - obviously free, etc. We just shouldn't
be encouraging it as the *default* anywhere until there are more languages
and a movement-wide discussion.]

Luis

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can we get an update on the transition plan to 4.0? I am seeing increasing
> amounts of content with 4.0 licensing across the the web, and would like us
> to move sooner rather than later to 4.0 in order to maintain continuity
> with new content where possible.
>
> I am not a licensing expert and I sometimes get headaches trying to
> deconflict licenses.
>
> Thanks,
> Pine
> On Oct 28, 2014 3:00 PM, "Luis Villa" <lvi...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Rupert-
>>
>> I think the movement as a whole should try to move consistently to 4.0 at
>> roughly the same time. It is confusing to re-users to have to juggle
>> different terms for different pieces of Wikimedia content.[1] So
>> Foundation
>> content will generally remain 3.0 until we make 4.0 the default license
>> across the projects. (I'm aware that some projects have taken this jump on
>> the own, but where I've seen this, I've made similar points - for example
>> <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries&diff=prev&oldid=622093759
>> >
>> .)
>>
>> WMF Legal plans to launch a movement-wide 4.0 discussion when CC has
>> issued
>> a solid number of translations, ideally in our largest languages. I
>> understand the first few translations will be published in the next few
>> weeks, and there is a schedule of upcoming translations on CC's wiki
>> <https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Legal_Tools_Translation#4.0>[2].
>>
>> Realistically,
>> given the holidays, and the lag for large projects, this likely means that
>> discussion will happen early in 2015.
>>
>> Hope that helps-
>> Luis
>>
>> [1] I'm well aware we already have a huge problem with this, but I don't
>> want it to get worse. :)
>> [2] These are updated by the translation teams, not CC itself, so they may
>> not be up-to-date/accurate.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:00 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi yana, would you be so kind to explain why wmf did not opt for the
>> newest
>> > commons license, cc-by-sa 4.0?
>> >
>> > Rupert
>> > On Oct 28, 2014 9:06 PM, "Yana Welinder" <ywelin...@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good point.  That line can now be deleted from the trademark template.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Practical question:
>> > > The template:
>> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
>> > > contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia
>> > > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
>> >}}
>> > > instead)
>> > >
>> > > Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template?
>> > > (including all translations)
>> > >
>> > > Romaine
>> > >
>> > > 2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen <wing.phil...@gmx.de>:
>> > >
>> > > > Really cool, great work. Thank you very much.
>> > > >
>> > > > Greetings
>> > > > Ting
>> > > >
>> > > > Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder:
>> > > >
>> > > >  Hi folks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos
>> on
>> > > >> Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0:
>> > > >>
>> > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright
>> by
>> > > >> Wikimedia}}
>> > > >> <
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
>> > >[1]
>> > > >> templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}}
>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
>> >[2]
>> > > and
>> > > >> {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <https://commons.wikimedia.
>> > > >> org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3]
>> > > >> templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki
>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the
>> > > >> Community
>> > > >> <
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
>> > > >[5]
>> > > >> logos, which were originally released under free licenses.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> There are also some pages on Commons, like this one
>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that
>> may
>> > > need
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> be updated based on the re-licensed logos.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Yana
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [1]
>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [2]
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [5]
>> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg
>> > > >>
>> > > >> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
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