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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Q1 Fundraising Update (Erik Zachte)
   2. Recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians (Carlos M. Colina)
   3. Recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan Community
      (Carlos M. Colina)
   4. Please upload Wikiconference USA presentations to Commons (Pine W)
   5. Recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User Group
      (Carlos M. Colina)
   6. Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list
      (Carlos M. Colina)
   7. Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list (Pine W)


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:13:22 +0200
From: "Erik Zachte" <erikzac...@infodisiac.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update
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I also feel disheartened about this yearly controversy, which seems to go 
nowhere.
I also am scared by even considering 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising#/media/File:Sept2015BannerEx.png

In my opinion this very ambitious budget (maybe too ambitious if such extreme 
doomsday measures are needed to reach our goals),
may well be putting our reputation at risk, and perhaps even alienate part of 
our community.
"Trust arrives on foot but leaves on horseback"

So who should we address to bring about change, and set more modest goals?
I belief fundraising is doing as they're told, the best they can.
The Wikimedia Foundation gets a lot of flak in these discussions.
But isn't WMF operating within limits set by the Board of Trustees?
Lila can propose a budget, but the Board is ultimately responsible, needs to 
approve that budget, and can amend it.

Erik Zachte 

(disclaimer: I'm speaking in my role as volunteer, not as contractor for WMF)  


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On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I saw that banner and I want to do all I can to help you not use it 
> even if it performs 20% better. I put my story in p.s. so it's easier 
> to skip for whoever chooses to skip. This is a true story. :-\
>

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree, that banner does not reflect the values of this movement. 
> Pure and simple; it's not a grey area, and not worth my time to 
> discuss for the 97th time.
>
> Personally, I long ago gave up participating in these discussions, for 
> the most part -- because the same valid points get made over and over 
> again, and the same *AWFUL* errors are made year after year in the 
> fund-raising campaign.
>
> Leila's post here is heartening, and I'm glad that somebody has the 
> energy to articulate the concerns so well. I, myself, do not; I have 
> simply lost faith in the integrity of the Wikimedia Foundation's 
> fund-raising operation. I am, honestly, ashamed to tell people that I 
> used to work in the fund-raising department there (though I believe 
> the work we did was valuable).
>
> I recently heard from a high-ranking executive at a software company. 
> She told me that she had given money to the Wikimedia Foundation, and 
> then looked into the WMF's budget, and the messages in the campaign 
> she had responded to. The word she used to describe her feeling was 
> "mortified."
> She had considered asking for her money back, but had decided against it.
>
> Fortunately, she was sophisticated enough not apply her negative 
> feelings to Wikipedia, but rather to the Wikimedia Foundation. But can 
> the WMF afford to assume that will always be the case?
>



I endorse what Leila and Pete said above. My responses to the black banner 
differ in details from Leila's, but the overall impression is the same: it is 
fear-inducing, as though someone or something has been murdered, or is about to 
be. Looking at the black banner, my eyes are first drawn to the highlighted 
sentence, and then the one following it, about "keeping Wikipedia online and 
ad-free."

Of course the banner "works". But it works for the wrong reasons. (The same 
could be said for the #keepitfree hashtag on Twitter.) It's the result of 
purely Darwinian A/B testing run amok, untempered by reason and conscience.
As Pete Forsyth has said: that process is broken. It seems not unlike the 
process by which the yellow press come up with its headlines, designed to 
pander to the basest, most primal instincts.

I will reiterate here that, according to the recent fundraising report[1], the 
Foundation took $75.5 million in 2014/2015, exactly five times what it had 
taken five years prior, in 2009-2010 ($15.1 million). Most organisations would 
see such revenue growth not as evidence of a looming financial crisis calling 
for desperate appeals for more cash, but as an amazing, stunning success.

Credibility, once lost, is hard to regain. So far, you have lost it only for a 
number of individuals, like that software executive Pete mentioned in his post. 
But that number is increasing, and as your bank balance grows and your appeals 
become more desperate-sounding, there will come a tipping point.

If you are going to ask people this December to donate money "to keep Wikipedia 
online and ad-free" (something that in the narrow sense costs the WMF no more 
than $3 million p.a.), when in reality you are shooting for $70 million to $100 
million, including several million dollars for an endowment and several million 
more for further staff expansion, you risk doing catastrophic damage to the 
Foundation's future fundraising ability.

Would you like that to be your legacy?


[1] See graphic in Signpost report:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-30/News_and_notes



> p.s. Here is the story:
> I open my laptop at 5:30am to check few definitions on Wikipedia for 
> an upcoming early morning meeting. The room is dark and the only 
> source of light is my laptop, I go to Wikipedia and I see that banner 
> < 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising#/media/File:Sept2015Banner
> Ex.png
> >.
> I'm still sleepy, and probably my mind is not functioning the way it 
> normally does, nevertheless, here is what comes to my mind: I have a 
> sudden feeling of fear. I see a very black background, and I think 
> someone very important has died. I look a bit more, and I see some red 
> colors, then I think something in the order of SOPA has happened. I'm 
> getting quite nervous. I look at the text, but it's too long for me to 
> parse it at that moment with the thoughts I have in the background. I 
> look more at the background, I see some orange colors, some yellow 
> colors, and a little human circled, I first think that whole color 
> combination is a flame (red, orange, yellow, and the semi shape of a 
> flame), then I think someone is jailed/executed. My eyes finally 
> manage to see the right-hand-side of the page, and I see there are 
> dollar signs and numbers. I sigh in relief, and then I get really 
> upset (though I manage to pass that stage soon). Now, if I was not 
> involved in the movement, I'm not sure if I would pay or not (maybe I
> would) seeing that banner, but because I'm in the Movement, I got really sad 
> seeing myself going through that experience because I know more.
> I also acknowledge that different people have different backgrounds 
> and experiences in life. What I see as a sign of death and war, may 
> not be a signal for many other people (though the color black is 
> almost universally used for signalling death), and I acknowledge that 
> you cannot accommodate everyone. But please be aware, some people get 
> really scared seeing this kind of banner.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:37 +0300
From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians
Message-ID: <561ffc0d.2090...@wikimedia.org.ve>
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Dear all,

I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the 
recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians as a Wikimedia User Group [1]. Among 
their goals are supporting the different Wikimedia projects in Iraq, 
supporting Iraqi Wikimedians, and eventually becoming the recognized 
chapter in Iraq. Recently, they have organized a series of workshops in 
Erbil to teach people about Wikipedia and how to edit it, and are 
currently working on flyers regarding Wikipedia and how important it is, 
in both Arabic and Kurdish.

Please, let's welcome our iraqi colleagues :-)

Mabrouk!!!

1:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Wikimedians
-- 
"*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:29:42 +0300
From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan
        Community
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Dear all,

I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the 
recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan Community as a Wikimedia User 
Group [1]. Among their goals are connecting the uzbek wikimedians, 
promote the use the different Wikimedia projects in Uzbekistan and teach 
more people how to contribute to them.

Let's welcome our colleagues in Central Asia 8-)

Welcome!!!

1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Uzbekistan_Community

-- 
"*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:35:20 -0700
From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>
To: "Wikimedians Active in Local Regions of the United States
        (WALRUS)" <wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org>,  Wikimedia Mailing List
        <Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Please upload Wikiconference USA presentations
        to      Commons
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Hi presenters,

Please upload your slide decks under
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiConference_USA_2015_presentations
.

Video uploads from sessions that were in rooms other than the main room
will likely happen sometime in the next 7 days.

Thanks,

Pine


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:07:14 +0300
From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User
        Group
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Dear all,

I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the 
recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User Group as a Wikimedia User 
Group [1]. Among their goals are brining together people and projects 
who digitize all kinds of public domain works (records, photographs, 
artwork, books) focusing on the practical process, as well as different 
alternatives for equipment (price and performance-wise), creating 
tutorials for different digitization projects, generating a knowledge 
base to outline the process of rightsclearing (which is fundamental for 
safely uploading works to Wikimedia projects) plus organizing workshops 
about the different digitization projects and methods.

Let's welcome this new Wikimedia User Group 8-)

Welcome!!!

1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Digitization_User_Group



-- 
"*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:04:06 +0300
From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing
        list
Message-ID: <562014c6.4030...@wikimedia.org.ve>
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Dear all,

On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the 
launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a 
place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user 
groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to 
other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide 
events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across 
our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide 
activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, 
or other communications from affiliates.

Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the 
mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to 
request additional spots if needed.

Please find a bit more information on Meta: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
 
and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.

Regards,
Carlos
-- 
"*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua 
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
Carlos M. Colina
Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | 
www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
Phone: +972-52-4869915
Twitter: @maor_x


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:19:08 -0700
From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates
        mailing list
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Hi Carlos,

Can you clarify how this list relates to the existing chapters mailing
list? (Also, please see the discussion at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_list_request_for_comment
).

Thanks,

Pine

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Carlos M. Colina <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a place
> for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user groups) to
> discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to other
> affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide events. The
> idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across our movement,
> plus collaborative discussions like community-wide activities, joint
> edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, or other
> communications from affiliates.
>
> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the mailing
> list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to request
> additional spots if needed.
>
> Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
>
> Regards,
> Carlos
> --
> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua
> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
> Carlos M. Colina
> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve
> <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> Phone: +972-52-4869915
> Twitter: @maor_x
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