We are getting emails at it. Try: affiliates-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org - there was an extra p in the address you posted.
-greg _______________ Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later. > On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:46 PM, reachout2is...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello Wikimedian Colleagues, > > I tried to send a mail to affiliates-own...@lists.wikimedia.org but all to no > avail. It seems the e-mail address is currently not working. Any help? > > Olatunde Isaac. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Thu, 15 > Oct 2015 21:19:10 > To: <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Reply-To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 139, Issue 49 > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Q1 Fundraising Update (Erik Zachte) > 2. Recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians (Carlos M. Colina) > 3. Recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan Community > (Carlos M. Colina) > 4. Please upload Wikiconference USA presentations to Commons (Pine W) > 5. Recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User Group > (Carlos M. Colina) > 6. Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list > (Carlos M. Colina) > 7. Re: Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list (Pine W) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:13:22 +0200 > From: "Erik Zachte" <erikzac...@infodisiac.com> > To: "'Wikimedia Mailing List'" <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update > Message-ID: <007901d1074b$45c539f0$d14fadd0$@infodisiac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I also feel disheartened about this yearly controversy, which seems to go > nowhere. > I also am scared by even considering > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising#/media/File:Sept2015BannerEx.png > > In my opinion this very ambitious budget (maybe too ambitious if such extreme > doomsday measures are needed to reach our goals), > may well be putting our reputation at risk, and perhaps even alienate part of > our community. > "Trust arrives on foot but leaves on horseback" > > So who should we address to bring about change, and set more modest goals? > I belief fundraising is doing as they're told, the best they can. > The Wikimedia Foundation gets a lot of flak in these discussions. > But isn't WMF operating within limits set by the Board of Trustees? > Lila can propose a budget, but the Board is ultimately responsible, needs to > approve that budget, and can amend it. > > Erik Zachte > > (disclaimer: I'm speaking in my role as volunteer, not as contractor for WMF) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf > Of Peter Southwood > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:38 > To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update > > +1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf > Of Andreas Kolbe > Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2015 7:01 PM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> I saw that banner and I want to do all I can to help you not use it >> even if it performs 20% better. I put my story in p.s. so it's easier >> to skip for whoever chooses to skip. This is a true story. :-\ > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I agree, that banner does not reflect the values of this movement. >> Pure and simple; it's not a grey area, and not worth my time to >> discuss for the 97th time. >> >> Personally, I long ago gave up participating in these discussions, for >> the most part -- because the same valid points get made over and over >> again, and the same *AWFUL* errors are made year after year in the >> fund-raising campaign. >> >> Leila's post here is heartening, and I'm glad that somebody has the >> energy to articulate the concerns so well. I, myself, do not; I have >> simply lost faith in the integrity of the Wikimedia Foundation's >> fund-raising operation. I am, honestly, ashamed to tell people that I >> used to work in the fund-raising department there (though I believe >> the work we did was valuable). >> >> I recently heard from a high-ranking executive at a software company. >> She told me that she had given money to the Wikimedia Foundation, and >> then looked into the WMF's budget, and the messages in the campaign >> she had responded to. The word she used to describe her feeling was >> "mortified." >> She had considered asking for her money back, but had decided against it. >> >> Fortunately, she was sophisticated enough not apply her negative >> feelings to Wikipedia, but rather to the Wikimedia Foundation. But can >> the WMF afford to assume that will always be the case? > > > > I endorse what Leila and Pete said above. My responses to the black banner > differ in details from Leila's, but the overall impression is the same: it is > fear-inducing, as though someone or something has been murdered, or is about > to be. Looking at the black banner, my eyes are first drawn to the > highlighted sentence, and then the one following it, about "keeping Wikipedia > online and ad-free." > > Of course the banner "works". But it works for the wrong reasons. (The same > could be said for the #keepitfree hashtag on Twitter.) It's the result of > purely Darwinian A/B testing run amok, untempered by reason and conscience. > As Pete Forsyth has said: that process is broken. It seems not unlike the > process by which the yellow press come up with its headlines, designed to > pander to the basest, most primal instincts. > > I will reiterate here that, according to the recent fundraising report[1], > the Foundation took $75.5 million in 2014/2015, exactly five times what it > had taken five years prior, in 2009-2010 ($15.1 million). Most organisations > would see such revenue growth not as evidence of a looming financial crisis > calling for desperate appeals for more cash, but as an amazing, stunning > success. > > Credibility, once lost, is hard to regain. So far, you have lost it only for > a number of individuals, like that software executive Pete mentioned in his > post. But that number is increasing, and as your bank balance grows and your > appeals become more desperate-sounding, there will come a tipping point. > > If you are going to ask people this December to donate money "to keep > Wikipedia online and ad-free" (something that in the narrow sense costs the > WMF no more than $3 million p.a.), when in reality you are shooting for $70 > million to $100 million, including several million dollars for an endowment > and several million more for further staff expansion, you risk doing > catastrophic damage to the Foundation's future fundraising ability. > > Would you like that to be your legacy? > > > [1] See graphic in Signpost report: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-30/News_and_notes > > > >> p.s. Here is the story: >> I open my laptop at 5:30am to check few definitions on Wikipedia for >> an upcoming early morning meeting. The room is dark and the only >> source of light is my laptop, I go to Wikipedia and I see that banner >> < >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising#/media/File:Sept2015Banner >> Ex.png >>> . >> I'm still sleepy, and probably my mind is not functioning the way it >> normally does, nevertheless, here is what comes to my mind: I have a >> sudden feeling of fear. I see a very black background, and I think >> someone very important has died. I look a bit more, and I see some red >> colors, then I think something in the order of SOPA has happened. I'm >> getting quite nervous. I look at the text, but it's too long for me to >> parse it at that moment with the thoughts I have in the background. I >> look more at the background, I see some orange colors, some yellow >> colors, and a little human circled, I first think that whole color >> combination is a flame (red, orange, yellow, and the semi shape of a >> flame), then I think someone is jailed/executed. My eyes finally >> manage to see the right-hand-side of the page, and I see there are >> dollar signs and numbers. I sigh in relief, and then I get really >> upset (though I manage to pass that stage soon). Now, if I was not >> involved in the movement, I'm not sure if I would pay or not (maybe I >> would) seeing that banner, but because I'm in the Movement, I got really sad >> seeing myself going through that experience because I know more. >> I also acknowledge that different people have different backgrounds >> and experiences in life. What I see as a sign of death and war, may >> not be a signal for many other people (though the color black is >> almost universally used for signalling death), and I acknowledge that >> you cannot accommodate everyone. But please be aware, some people get >> really scared seeing this kind of banner. > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4447/10820 - Release Date: 10/14/15 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:37 +0300 > From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians > Message-ID: <561ffc0d.2090...@wikimedia.org.ve> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians as a Wikimedia User Group [1]. Among > their goals are supporting the different Wikimedia projects in Iraq, > supporting Iraqi Wikimedians, and eventually becoming the recognized > chapter in Iraq. Recently, they have organized a series of workshops in > Erbil to teach people about Wikipedia and how to edit it, and are > currently working on flyers regarding Wikipedia and how important it is, > in both Arabic and Kurdish. > > Please, let's welcome our iraqi colleagues :-) > > Mabrouk!!! > > 1:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Wikimedians > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | > www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:29:42 +0300 > From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan > Community > Message-ID: <561ffea6.2090...@wikimedia.org.ve> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of Wikimedians of Uzbekistan Community as a Wikimedia User > Group [1]. Among their goals are connecting the uzbek wikimedians, > promote the use the different Wikimedia projects in Uzbekistan and teach > more people how to contribute to them. > > Let's welcome our colleagues in Central Asia 8-) > > Welcome!!! > > 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Uzbekistan_Community > > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | > www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:35:20 -0700 > From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> > To: "Wikimedians Active in Local Regions of the United States > (WALRUS)" <wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia Mailing List > <Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Please upload Wikiconference USA presentations > to Commons > Message-ID: > <CAF=dyJjsG35BU2RFwq_3pcYrKxC_Ym1UQXc0Pg6A6QsOjmEv=a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi presenters, > > Please upload your slide decks under > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiConference_USA_2015_presentations > . > > Video uploads from sessions that were in rooms other than the main room > will likely happen sometime in the next 7 days. > > Thanks, > > Pine > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:07:14 +0300 > From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User > Group > Message-ID: <56200772.4060...@wikimedia.org.ve> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > I am honoured to announce on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, the > recognition of Wikimedia Digitization User Group as a Wikimedia User > Group [1]. Among their goals are brining together people and projects > who digitize all kinds of public domain works (records, photographs, > artwork, books) focusing on the practical process, as well as different > alternatives for equipment (price and performance-wise), creating > tutorials for different digitization projects, generating a knowledge > base to outline the process of rightsclearing (which is fundamental for > safely uploading works to Wikimedia projects) plus organizing workshops > about the different digitization projects and methods. > > Let's welcome this new Wikimedia User Group 8-) > > Welcome!!! > > 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Digitization_User_Group > > > > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | > www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:04:06 +0300 > From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing > list > Message-ID: <562014c6.4030...@wikimedia.org.ve> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the > launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a > place for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user > groups) to discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to > other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide > events. The idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across > our movement, plus collaborative discussions like community-wide > activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, > or other communications from affiliates. > > Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the > mailing list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to > request additional spots if needed. > > Please find a bit more information on Meta: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list > > and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions. > > Regards, > Carlos > -- > "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua > junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." > Carlos M. Colina > Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | > www.wikimedia.org.ve <http://wikimedia.org.ve> > Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee > Phone: +972-52-4869915 > Twitter: @maor_x > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:19:08 -0700 > From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates > mailing list > Message-ID: > <CAF=dyjjazutnau63ro9jzfevsmjvtzwyt3y_yyqk-_lt-w_...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Carlos, > > Can you clarify how this list relates to the existing chapters mailing > list? (Also, please see the discussion at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_list_request_for_comment > ). > > Thanks, > > Pine > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Carlos M. Colina <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve> > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the >> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a place >> for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user groups) to >> discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to other >> affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide events. The >> idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across our movement, >> plus collaborative discussions like community-wide activities, joint >> edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, or other >> communications from affiliates. >> >> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the mailing >> list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to request >> additional spots if needed. >> >> Please find a bit more information on Meta: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list >> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions. >> >> Regards, >> Carlos >> -- >> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee wayuukanairua >> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain." >> Carlos M. Colina >> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve >> <http://wikimedia.org.ve> >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee >> Phone: +972-52-4869915 >> Twitter: @maor_x >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 139, Issue 49 > ******************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
