Congratulations Olatunde and others who were involved with the effort! On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:33 AM, olatunde isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all, > On behalf of WUGN, this is to congratulate all the Wikimedia communities > for the success of the celebration of Wikipedia at 15. > We held an event at Fountain University in Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria as > a way of commemorating the 15th years anniversary in the country. It was > also a moment to reflect on the significance of Wikipedia, as the largest > encyclopedia in the world and her plans for the future. > No doubt, the event was a great success. We were hosted by the Vice > Chancellor of the Institution with over 100 students in Attendance. One of > the major highlights is the cutting of cake to celebrate the event. > The event was followed with 3days workshop tagged: Wikipedia Workshop for > student of Fountain University, to be concluded on the 28th January, 2016. > > Best, > > Olatunde Isaac, > > Secretary, WUGN > Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN > > -----Original Message----- > From: wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Sun, > 17 Jan 2016 12:00:17 > To: <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Reply-To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 102 > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Offlist Re: In Support of Community (Philippe Beaudette) > 2. Re: Monetizing Wikimedia APIs (Vituzzu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:33:38 -0800 > From: Philippe Beaudette <phili...@beaudette.me> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offlist Re: In Support of Community > Message-ID: > < > cab-zubwk9c+innvfhfazhqmqv1bzwrkchujueey2xte-9iy...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You called? :) > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist email offlist. > > On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > That's what the Googleplex wants you to think! > > > On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > > > (perhaps it would be nice to stop wasting everyone's time with this.) > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal > this > > > > guess > > > > > at some later date, but for now here is the hash value: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bd17ae9eef103aec4ce75c8e8ba0c0b9cb45bc63c7bb0b52145642b68b1c6bfb586ea67f18e07e6767b5522765a00e096cf29eceadc0450e8840a19bacb692f2 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Asaf Bartov > > > > Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> > > > > > > > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > > the > > > > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > > > > https://donate.wikimedia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > > > Philippe Beaudette > > phili...@beaudette.me > 415-691-8822 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 11:35:06 +0100 > From: Vituzzu <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs > Message-ID: <569b6e5a.6040...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > Il 17/01/2016 00:49, Risker ha scritto: > > Hmm. The majority of those crawlers are from search engines - the very > > search engines that keep us in the top 10 of their results (and often in > > the top 3), thus leading to the usage and donations that we need to > > survive. If they have to pay, then they might prefer to change their > > algorithm, or reduce the frequency of scraping (thus also failing to > catch > > updates to articles including removal of vandalism in the lead > paragraphs, > > which is historically one of the key reasons for frequently crawling the > > same articles). Those crawlers are what attracts people to our sites, to > > read, to make donations, to possibly edit. Of course there are lesser > > crawlers, but they're not really big players. > As usual you nailed it! That's why I wrote "negotiation" implying any > extra cost should be fairly modulated but also it shouldn't force over > the tops to leave our services. > > > > I'm at a loss to understand why the Wikimedia Foundation should take on > the > > costs and indemnities associated with hiring staff to create a for-pay > API > > that would have to meet the expectations of a customer (or more than one > > customer) that hasn't even agreed to pay for access. If they want a > > specialized API (and we've been given no evidence that they do), let THEM > > hire the staff, pay them, write the code in an appropriately open-source > > way, and donate it to the WMF with the understanding that it could be > > modified as required, and that it will be accessible to everyone. > +1 is not enough let's +1e12 > > > > It is good that the WMF has studied the usage patterns. Could a link be > > given to the report, please? It's public, correct? This is exactly the > > point of transparency. If only the WMF has the information, then it > gives > > an excuse for the community's comments to be ignored "because they don't > > know the facts". So let's lay out all the facts on the table, please. > > > > > From Lila's ongoing choices I'm pretty sure they will. > > Il 17/01/2016 03:11, Denny Vrandecic ha scritto: > > To give a bit more thoughts: I am not terribly worried about current > > crawlers. But currently, and more in the future, I expect us to provide > > more complex and this expensive APIs: a SPARQL endpoint, parsing APIs, > etc. > > These will be simply expensive to operate. Not for infrequent users - > say, > > to the benefit of us 70,000 editors - but for use cases that involve tens > > or millions of requests per day. These have the potential of burning a > lot > > of funds to basically support the operations of commercial companies > whose > > mission might or might not be aligned with our. > Then a good synthesis would be "let's Google(*) fund scholarships/summer > of codes/whatever to build new functionalities then make Google > reimburse (**) our facilities' usage/increase our userbase(***)". > > Notes: > (*) by "Google" I mean any big player > (**) by "reimburse" I mean give us a fairly and proportionally > determined amount of money based upon *actual* exploitation of our > hardware/networking resources. This "reimburse" could also be colo space > or whatever we'd need. > (***) as several people already pointed out we're in a symbiotic > relationship with Google (and others): they need our knowledge, we need > their traffic. As long as our sectors are distinct all is right with the > symbiosis. > > IMHO there's room to increase our advantages without breaking the > symbiosis but, above all, without missing our mission. > > Vito > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 102 > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- Regards, Tanweer Morshed _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
