It's okay we can just use the green tech on the secret CIA moonbase.

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 7:30 PM, James Salsman <> wrote:
> A frustrating reason why it is difficult to "use green energy" in general
> is because of the secret accords between Franklin D. Rosevelt and King Faud
> of Saudi Arabia just after the end of WWII, wherein, according to the BBC
> documentary "Bitter Lake," the U.S. agreed to uninterrupted purchases of
> Saudi oil in return for regional security in the Middle East. The U.S. Navy
> has been sending masters' students to MIT to work on shipboard synthesis of
> liquid diesel fuel from the carbonate in seawater since the 1970s, and the
> U.S. Strategic "Petroleum" reserve stopped announcing purchases in the
> 1990s when the number of oilers assigned to carrier groups and their port
> fuel purchases both declined sharply. The SPR still frequently announces
> sales, however.
> Google recently developed a prototype of liquid transportation fuels
> synthesis from the dialysis of carbonate in seawater, which incidentally
> produces large quantities of fresh water as a byproduct:
> Other researchers have developed similar ways to recycle the flue exhaust
> from natural gas power plants:
> Both of these U.S. projects stopped abruptly, supposedly because they were
> not economical at the retail cost of power, and the researchers refuse to
> discuss the reasons that they did not calculate the cost of their outputs
> from off-peak power. I recommend efforts to encourage resumption of these
> projects using discounted nighttime wind power (which as per
> is so inexpensive as to be entirely free at
> retail in Texas, where some Foundation datacenters are located) as a more
> effective means of minimizing environmental impact than merely contracting
> for renewable energy.
> Merkel's Germany and her neighbors in Europe have developed a vibrant
> power-to-gas research and nascent industrial infrastructure which the U.S.
> Department of Energy has never yet touched because of the corrupt U.S. "all
> of the above" strategy of catering to fossil fuel producers because of
> their political power in this political environment where unlimited amounts
> of money from any source can be funneled to politicians' campaigns. If the
> Bitter Lake accords are in the way of lessening environmental impact,
> another approach would be to encourage national leaders to talk about how
> the increasing use of non-supply limited renewables and concordant
> continued decline in the price of all energy via power-to-gas and
> gas-to-liquids infrastructure which is already built out in Europe and
> Qatar (the Pearl GTL plant produces about 10% of Royal Dutch Shell's fuel
> output) will effect geopolitical crises. I am convinced that Syria would
> not have had a refugee crisis if they were producing their own fresh water
> as a byproduct of Project Foghorn-style fuel from the carbon in seawater
> instead of having to depend on changing weather patterns.
> The heart of the question is: can alleviating pressure of scarce energy
> resources, and in turn alleviating the scarcity all of the goods and
> services in the real economy that energy underpins, provide more
> geopolitical security than a 70 year old secret agreement to buy peace by
> uninterrupted purchases of oil?
> Another important consideration is that recycled carbon can be used for
> more than just carbon neutral fuel. Researchers such as those working on
> can use recycled carbon as plastic feedstock,
> allowing structural plastic fiberglass composite lumber to replace most if
> not almost all of the wood timber used in construction, allowing
> reforestation.
> Could the Endowment be chartered to ask the same environmental
> responsibility of the directors and officers of its investments?
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM María Sefidari <>
> wrote:
>> Forwading.
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>> Fecha: 29 mar. 2017 15:06
>> Asunto: Wikimedia Foundation's commitment around our environmental impact
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