To be fair, while I opposed THIS particular removal from the Board, I think the Board SHOULD have the right to expel people who are perceived as disruptive, uncooperative, or not fulfilling their fiduciary duties well.
Such cases should be rare, and exceptionally well grounded and explained (whenever possible). Best, Dj On May 23, 2017 3:14 PM, "James Salsman" <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: Instead of blaming people, I blame the idea that board members should ever be ejected if they have lost the trust or confidence of other board members, or because other members feel uncomfortable working with them, or because they may choose to withhold or be more forthcoming with information than other members prefer. Joining a representative body should require a conscious effort to avoid groupthink, not a suicide pact to abide by it. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:06 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 :-) > > The elected candidates are ideal, making me feel confident that the > values and aspirations of the wider Wikimedia volunteer community will > be well represented in the coming year. > > As previously mentioned, Alice and Jimmy were the main political > players in excluding Doc James from board discussions. The expulsion > of James from the board as an //elected// trustee has damaged the > reputation of the WMF board of trustees, and they must take fair > personal responsibility for those events. It would be great if both > Alice and Jimmy could speak up now, perhaps now thanking Doc James for > having the determination to run again for the board and ensuring the > community that they will do everything they can to ensure James is > supported and welcome, or have the wisdom to step down if they feel > unable to work collegiately and positively with their elected fellow > trustees. > > The historical theme of the WMF board being directed by trustees that > have never stood for an open election is an embarrassment in the light > of the unnecessarily policial recent history of the WMF. We are > overdue for the board to be seen to get their fingers out, do some > meaningful housekeeping, and re-invent itself as one that is properly > open, transparent and accountable to volunteers as well as large rich > donors. Naturally, well intentioned folks who "happen to" benefit from > their sticky conflicts of interest in directly related commercial > ventures, such as Wikia and Wikitrubune, should not be anywhere near > the board, nor should they hold positions of influence on related > committees and trusts where the potential conflicts of loyalty > represent financial and reputational risks for the Wikimedia community > and the Wikimedia Foundation. > > Fae > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > On 23 May 2017 at 12:34, Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I normally hate +1s, but I want to congratulate Doc James on his > > reappointment to the board. I hope we've all learned from his previous > > term, and can work together to benefit the movement. > > > > With love, > > > > One of your list administrators, who would rather not have to deal with > > fiascos. > > > > On May 23, 2017 02:12, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2is...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Congratulations to the newly elected members and many thanks to members > of > >> the election committee. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Isaac. > >> > >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > Many congrats to all the members. Good wishes and all the best. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 22 May 2017 at 11:53, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Indeed. It would be appropriate for members of the Board to state > now, > >> > in > >> > > public and for the record, that they accept the democratically > >> expressed > >> > > wishes of the community and will reappoint James at the due time. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:18 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > matanya moses wrote: > >> > > > >Congratulations to María Sefidari (User:Raystorm), Dariusz > >> Jemielniak > >> > > > >(User:pundit), and James Heilman (User:Doc James) for receiving > the > >> > most > >> > > > >community support. Subject to a standard background check, they > will > >> > be > >> > > > >appointed by the Board at their August meeting at Wikimania. > >> > > > > >> > > > For those wondering, two of the people who supported James' > removal > >> > from > >> > > > the Board of Trustees in December 2015 are still serving: Alice > and > >> > > Jimmy. > >> > > > > >> > > > And the two people who opposed the resolution (Dariusz and James) > are > >> > now > >> > > > among the three people being reappointed. > >> > > > > >> > > > * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:James_ > >> > Heilman_Removal > >> > > > * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees > >> > > > * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Former_Board_of_ > >> > Trustees_members > >> > > > > >> > > > MZMcBride > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > >> mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
