Notability and verifiability are important. They allow us to produce reasonably reliable work. Moving away from those constraints opens the doors to extremely unreliable material. If Wikipedia is to remain open to anyone to edit, there do not appear to be any robust alternatives. Other projects may work around this problem, but would then probably not be open for anyone to edit. Or can you suggest another way? Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Béland Sent: 10 May 2018 15:01 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems "Nothing odd, it's baked in: Wikipedia is a summary of the canon of knowledge, the corpus of generally accepted knowledge." But it is what we accept as part of the canon of "knowledge" as Wikipedia that could be improved. We have a very western approach to that saying that it needs to be published in such books or journals to be notable enough, when different cultures use different ways to build their canon of knowledge. JP User:Amqui On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 5:53 AM FRED BAUDER <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Thu, 10 May 2018 04:02:46 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems > > ...because of our rules regarding references. Oddly, > Wikipedia can at best only echo the systemic bias, but will never be able > to correct it." > > Nothing odd, it's baked in: Wikipedia is a summary of the canon of > knowledge, the corpus of generally accepted knowledge. > > The knowledge industry could do better. And when it does, Wikipedia will > reflect that. in the meantime it is helpful if gender and other bias issues > are noted and accommodated. Our mission is more modest than full correction > of all bias, but we can contribute or even lead. > > Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
