Hi Micru, How about documenting your insights on here. I know a number of people in the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank you very much for sharing.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities Chris On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:23 PM David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]> wrote: > @Benjamin: It is already there, as answer to Farkhad. > > @Ziko: I have no idea where to store this. If you find a suitable place, > please go ahead and let me know. > > Regards, > Micru > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello, maybe there is a suitable place on Meta Wiki to conserve this? > Later > > it will be a little bit difficult to find it again on a mailinglist. > > I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and > worth > > to notice e.g. in strategic discussions. > > Kind regards > > Ziko > > > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb David Cuenca Tudela < > > [email protected]>: > > > > > Hi Bodhisattwa, > > > > > > > > > *Governance recommendation * > > > I assisted to a session on sociocracy organized by the Transition > Network > > > that basically blew my mind. The speaker explained how for her it has > > been > > > always difficult to participate in decision-making because she feels > that > > > she is a very vocal person, and she felt that with democracy it was > > mostly > > > about taking sides and wining or losing, which was quite disappointing > > for > > > her. Then she started to explain the sociocratic principles of decision > > by > > > consent, and what does that mean. > > > > > > What is interesting about sociocracy itself, is not the process or the > > > method, but how it challenges the participants to truly understand the > > > meaning of a decision, and their own relationship with it. Objections > are > > > seen as a gift that will help improve the proposal, once they have been > > > properly understood. Normally it takes effort from the participants to > > > address their own personal issues as well, because they have an impact > on > > > how the group can operate. > > > > > > Trust can be built during in person sessions, and it is necessary for > the > > > group to operate smoothly. Sociocracy is not for people who like to > > > accumulate power, or are not able to share power with others, and that > > can > > > drive people away. On the other hand, those who stay feel more included > > and > > > supported by the organisation. There is also an element of celebration, > > > which sometimes we forget. Taking decisions is hard work, and we should > > > celebrate when we reach one. > > > > > > Sociocracy it is easy to grasp, but difficult to master. The members of > > the > > > Transition Network had to undergo a training during a long time at the > > > Université de Nous, to become proficient in this method. There is also > a > > > software that assists self-organization: https://www.holaspirit.com/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Micru > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:45 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Micru, > > > > > > > > I am interested about your thoughts about governance recommendation > for > > > the > > > > movement and community model of affiliates. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Bodhisattwa > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:14 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin < > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Micru, > > > > > I would be interested to learn about "External perception of the > > > > > movement".part of your insights. > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > from Russia with love, > > > > > farhad > > > > > https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ > > Тел.+79274158066 > > > / > > > > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" <[email protected]>: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people > > > from > > > > > > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, > > > > > > democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four speakers > > in > > > a > > > > > > "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants can > > > > > > interact with the speaker). I represented the Wikimedia movement > in > > > > > > general, with the intention that participants would learn from > our > > > > > > movement, and so that I would learn from them. There were also > Open > > > > > > Space sessions. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is interest, I can share with you my insights on any of > > > these > > > > > topics: > > > > > > - External perception of the movement > > > > > > - Recommendations to the WMF > > > > > > - Governance recommendations for the movement > > > > > > - Community model for affiliates > > > > > > - How to increase diversity > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a lot to say about each topic, so please ask only about > > the > > > > > > topic you have genuine interest in. If there is no interest, I'm > ok > > > > > > keeping it to myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Micru > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
