The recommendations from the second iteration are available now: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
Looking at the formatting with discussion links and so on, I assume community feedback is still welcome. It would be good to announce this in wikimedia-l, meta main page, etc. Best, MarioGom On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 3:48 PM Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > Recently, the "draft recommendations" of the strategy working groups have > been published. As Nicole informed us, they are "key tools" for the future > of the movement. These documents are the result of one year of work of the > working groups. > > If I am not mistaken, the Wikimedia volunteers now have one month to give > feedback. In October, the process of refining and finalizing has to be > ready, and in November, the movement will have to start with implementing > the recommendations. > > Having seen now more of the documents, my conclusion can only be one: the > documents are simply not ready for this stage of the process. They are much > more unready than they should be for being put to the eyes of the Wikimeda > volunteers. > > There are documents in which there is only one question answered, by one > sentence. Other documents don't show that any research has been used to > back the statements. Many obvious arguments and links are missing. At least > at one occasion I read as an answer to an important question: "todo". > > The proposals often give the impression that they are not thought through. > There should be quotas for admins, but we see nowhere an explanation how > that would relate to the right to remain anonymous. There is the statement > that minorities sometimes can only express themselves with ND and NC > content, but the two links in the document hardly back that claim. After > years in which the Wikimedia organizations and other free and open content > organizations taught us that NC is problematic, now such a drastic change? > > And there is this already infamous sentence: Instead of being informed > about the possible negative impacts of NC and ND, we only read: "All change > has negative connotations to some members of the community." > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Diversity/Recommendations/9 > > I find it stunning that there was nobody who went through the documents > before publication and said: we cannot publish this sentence, it is giving > a very bad impression about our attitude towards the community (= the very > same people we are asking to invest their time for giving feedback). > > This does not mean that all documents or all sections and recommendations > are unusable or damaging. I also cannot judge about the efforts invested, > as I have no insight in the inner workings. But it is very frustrating for > me to read the documents and often have to guess what they actually mean. > And it seems to me, given the comments on the user pages on Meta Wiki, on > this list, on de:WP:Kurier and on Facebook, that I am not the only one who > feels this frustration. > > Therefore, I ask the people responsible: please reconsider the timeline. If > these documents are the result of one year work, then the documents will > not be ready within two and a half months. Consider several months for the > working groups to use the present feedback for a redraft, and then give the > Wikimedia volunteers at least the same amount of time for giving feedback > again. > > Kind regards > Ziko > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
