Hi Vira, Ala'a, and Galder, Thanks for your feedback - we’re really glad you’re enjoying the changes we’ve made so far. I wanted to point out that this is not all! The deployed changes are a part of a larger series of improvements that we will be rolling out progressively over the next 1+ years. To see a list of the other features we are planning on working on, please check out our project page[1]. In addition, we believe that even after the project is complete, there will still be work to do. We’d like to view this project as a new baseline on which we can build new functionality that can improve both reading and editing in the future.
Thanks again! - Olga [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 8:06 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for bringing this topic! > At euwiki it has been some weeks we have experienced the new vector style, > and it has some great things: you can be sure about how width images will > take for any reader, you can create better galleries or even decide where > to insert an image to avoid sandwiching. > > BUT... > > I think that the changes (even when finishing) will be too short on what > we need (a real face change!) but it will annoy in the same amount to those > who don't want any change at all. So, we are losing an opportunity to go on > with big changes. > > Best > > Galder > ------------------------------ > *From:* Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> on behalf > of Ala'a Najjar <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:06 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop > Improvements coming to Vector > > Thanks for bring our attention to this Desktop Improvements. > I opened section about this on Arabic Wikipedia village pump > https://w.wiki/a9S, so users can try it, and maybe there feedback can > help Readers Web team. > > Best, > Alaa > https://w.wiki/JNQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Vira Motorko > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:01 PM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Let's discuss first features of Desktop > Improvements coming to Vector > > Hi all, > > I don't see any messages about the Desktop Improvements to wikimedia-l, so > I've decided to forward one from wikitech-l. > > If I understand correctly, Desktop Improvements are changes to the desktop > version of the Vector skin, which are to be built throughout the next year, > features being added one by one. Several wikis already enjoy them by > default, and users of other wikis can find a respective tick in their > preferences to make new Vector visible. > > Current features are said to not be permanent anyway but wouldn't it be > good for more people to see them while they are still work in progress? > > See email text and links below. > *--* > *Vira Motorko // Віра Моторко* > mobile: +380667740499 | facebook: vira.motorko < > https://www.facebook.com/vira.motorko> | wikipedia: Ата < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ата> > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > Від: Olga Vasileva <[email protected]> > Date: ср, 5 серп. 2020 о 15:33 > Subject: [Wikitech-l] First desktop improvements features now available on > early adopter wikis > ---- > > Hi all, > > We’re happy to announce that the first two of many changes focused on > improving the desktop experience of the Vector skin [1] have been released > as a user preference to all projects and as default on a set of early > adopter wikis: Basque, Farsi, French, and Hebrew Wikipedias, French > Wiktionary, and Portuguese Wikiversity. > > Since its introduction in 2009, the Vector skin has changed little, while > the needs of our readers and editors have shifted significantly, as have > their expectations for a quality reading experience that focuses on the > content itself. Over the next year, the readers web team [2] will be > researching and building out improvements to the desktop experience based > on research and existing tools built by our communities. > > Our goal is to create a more welcoming reading and editing experience - > something that feels familiar yet makes it easier and quicker to read, > edit, and perform common functionality. > > Our first change, a collapsible sidebar, allows users to collapse the > lengthy menu on the left side of the page. We believe this change improves > usability by allowing people to focus on the content itself - on reading, > editing, or moderating. > > Our second change introduces a maximum line width to our content on pages > such as article pages and discussion pages. Studies have shown that > limiting the width can lead to better retention of content, as well as a > decrease in eye strain > > You can opt into these features by unchecking “legacy vector” from the > appearance tab of your user preferences. > > We’d also like to note that these are the first of a series of changes > and, as such, their visual characteristics are not permanent. Also - there > might be bugs. If you notice an issue or would like to learn more about the > project itself - please head to our project page [3]. > > Thank you! > > Olga > > [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Web/Team > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements > -- > *Olga Vasileva* // Senior Product Manager // Web > https://wikimediafoundation.org/ > > > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. 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