>From what I've read in the thread above I agree with Yair, and would add that this feels like a big power grab against the community.
I believe that Wikimedia Foundation must reject these proposed bylaws changes to preserve our open, democratic nature, and hold elections to fill all seats. -- brion former CTO current software architect On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 5:12 PM Asaf Bartov <asaf.bar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello. With my list-moderator hat, I am relaying two messages from Jimmy > Wales, sent from an address he apparently hadn't used before, that were > unintentionally caught by the mailing list filters and could not be let > through. I paste them below. > > Asaf > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@fandom.com> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 05:12:55 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation > Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric > On 10/7/20 6:32 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > The replacement of an explicit voting process with an unspecified process + > schedule seems unnecessarily vague. > > I agree that the vagueness is not good. To make sure everyone is aware: > there has been no discussion and I'm unaware of anyone > on the board who would be in favor of *removing* elections. I think the > current wording here is awkward and may have been designed > to not be super prescriptive about how exactly we might move to a process > with a community-driven and community-approved "rubric" > combined with elections. To remedy this defect seems quite easy - a future > revision should explicitly include as much detail as is possible, > and certainly should mandate elections. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jimmy Wales <jimmywa...@fandom.com> > To: email@example.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 05:13:08 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation > Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric > On 10/7/20 10:03 PM, Yair Rand wrote: > > (Another minor point: The change from the description of the appointed > seats from "non-community-selected, non-chapter-selected" to > "non-community-sourced" seems to imply that the Board is prohibited from > filling these seats with any community members. Previously, there have been > community members in these seats.) > > I think this is a very good "catch". I'm sure that wasn't the intention of > the rewording. I didn't > write it and of course I can't speak for anyone else. I can say that there > has been no discussion > at the board level of anyone suggesting that we should not be able to > select community members > for these seats. > > Indeed, my personal view is that as we pursue board expansion, it is > crucial that we try as hard as > we can find to fill the appointed seats with as many deeply experienced > community members (who > have other relevant skills) as we possibly can. > > In terms of this proposal, I think that a minor change to clarify this > minor point is a great idea! > > I think the ambiguity probably arose with the change from "selected" to > "sourced" - a change that, itself, > deserves great scrutiny. > > =============== > > (end of Jimmy's two messages. Future posts from Jimmy's new address should > go through.) > > Asaf > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >
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