Hello, I am glad to see the channel on Wikimedia Chat/WMChat. Thanks Tito Dutta
শনি, ২৪ অক্টোবর, ২০২০ তারিখে ২:৩৬ AM টায় এ Kaarel Vaidla < [email protected]> লিখেছেন: > Dear all, > > For those interested, we are now testing a wikimedia chat channel for > movement strategy and see how well it will be received and utilized. > You can join us at: > https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/movement-strategy > > Thank you for your kind attention! > Kaarel > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:54 PM Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for highlighting the issues of access from different countries. >> >> Being in the UK, I would never have used Telegram apart from Wikimedia >> demands, as hardly anyone uses it here. Popularity, accessibility, >> reliability, are highly variable for the different channel >> technologies we use. These are also extremely good reasons not to jump >> to one method, but to ensure our larger events support multiple >> channels including our oldest or old fashioned like IRC and email. >> Running editathons with a live dashboard or mash-up of IRC, a twitter >> hashtag or FB messenger has worked reasonably well to engage remote >> participants and to supplement videoconferencing. It's also essential >> to encourage folks planning to participate to *test* their access, >> preferably by supporting a dry-run session. One thing we can count on >> is webcams and mics to fail, wifi access to become spotty, or for >> websites to crash and that's when old methods suddenly look like good >> options. >> >> I guess we can agree a solid recommendation is to aim to support two >> or three channels when the group gets above 4 or 5 participants, even >> if some, like IRC, are considered back-ups. >> >> P.S. as a community we should seek to keep testing out open-source >> alternates, folx get comfortable with what they know works on their >> machines but most of us are happy to support experimenting with >> alternatives, it does not hurt to keep on suggesting them. >> >> Fae >> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 11:22, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > I want to add a funny story. When I used to live in Iran, I couldn't >> join any of Wikimedia telegram groups (including three or four wikimedia >> hackathons when I was participating in them) because my phone number had >> country code of Iran (duh) and Telegram banned users being able to join >> large groups for the whole country of Iran on the grounds that lots of >> spammers are from Iran which is true. I don't know if it's still the case >> or not but this is one of privileges people have and might not notice it >> (not to mention the racist behavior of Telegram). >> > >> > If I can shamelessly promote my project, you can use Wikimedia Chat >> instead: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chat ( >> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/09/18/introducing-wikimedia-chat/) >> > >> > Best >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM Željko Blaće <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/22/20, Kaarel Vaidla <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > How to participate >> >> ... >> >> > * Join our Telegram group [2]. >> >> >> >> It would be amazing if we could embody the values of movement strategy >> >> whenever we can. Using only Telegram group as recommendation is NOT*. >> >> >> >> In general please consider not to endorse commercial and closed source >> >> software as primary communication channel. It is also bad in terms of >> >> usability and intensity/velocity of exchanges in conditions and >> >> context of massive cross-zone/cross-cultural event organizing. Likely >> >> to be a cute looking mess and info bottleneck. I already have multiple >> >> Wikimedia Telegram groups that hard to follow and take more personal >> >> energy then they should at these times of pandemic. Please re-consider >> >> this! >> >> >> >> My arguments are presented on the Telegram group itself and your meta >> >> page >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Transition/Global_Conversations#Use_of_Telegram_for_working_official_communication_for_events_-_pls_NO >> >> >> >> >> >> In Solidarity and with Care >> >> ~Zblace >> >> >> >> *As a queer person without western privileges I can recommend its >> >> limited use due to phone number privacy and I do also use it myself >> >> but it should be neither only nor first option. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: Personal and confidential, >> please do not circulate or re-quote. >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> >> New messages to: [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Amir (he/him) >> -- >> [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > -- > > Kaarel Vaidla (he/him) > > Movement Strategy <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2030> > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >
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