Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by the CC license, so I fail to see the problem here.
Todd On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 9:12 AM Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Andreas, that was exactly what I was looking for. Everybody > seems to agree there is more and more CC4 content out there, but > apparently not enough to justify the investment. Hopefully the > foundation will be able to provide more details and maybe a roadmap > for the following fiscal year. > > Strainu > > P.S. I just hope that we're not pushing technical debt along with this > project. > > În mie., 20 oct. 2021 la 17:26, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> a > scris: > > > > The question about CC 4.0 was just answered in the "Conversation with > the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees". This link will take you to the > right place: > > > > https://youtu.be/Zpof5J6jjZ4?t=3738 > > > > Database rights were mentioned in the answers, along with challenging, > unforeseen technical requirements that would require more money, more > effort and more technical development work to address than was originally > anticipated. As a result, moving to 4.0 is not something the Foundation can > commit to doing right now. > > > > The question came up because the UN is apparently close to adopting CC > 4.0 for its content. > > > > Andreas > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> See also > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0/Diff > >> > >> The proposed waiver of database rights that was to accompany the move > from 3.0 to 4.0 was one of the sticking points, I believe. To quote: > >> > >> Where you own Sui Generis Database Rights covered by CC BY-SA 4.0, you > waive these rights. As an example, this means facts you contribute to the > projects may be reused freely without attribution. > >> > >> For further background see > >> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0/Legal_note#Waiving_database_rights > >> > >> Andreas > >> > >> On Thursday, September 30, 2021, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Isaac, > >>> > >>> See > https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0 > >>> > >>> Strainu > >>> > >>> Pe joi, 30 septembrie 2021, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2is...@gmail.com> > a scris: > >>> > Hi Strainu, > >>> > I can't find the previous discussions.Could you please provide a > link to the public consultations (or proposal) you mentioned to allow > people on this list have a clear understanding of what was discussed? > >>> > Best regards > >>> > Isaac > >>> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 23:22 Strainu, <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi, > >>> >> > >>> >> A few years ago there was a public consultation on moving the > Wikimedia license to cc-by-sa-4.0 instead of 3.0. Now, obviously that never > happened but I couldn't find the decision documented anywhere. Why was the > proposal scrapped? Are there any plans to revisit this? > >>> >> > >>> >> Steainu _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, > guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> >> Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/TF6DDMFO23Y3I4LJFITYYMOPHIIMWJAG/ > >>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/YAMJGXHYK67Y2GKF6WOFAYXFU7BEZ4KP/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/SCOM2YLTOCG7NY5QPQVLF2T3UA4HMGTR/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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