On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:33 AM Luis Villa <l...@lu.is> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:03 AM Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by
>> the CC license ...
>>
>
> No.
>
> All from CC BY-SA 4.0:
>
> 1.d:* "Copyright and Similar Rights* means copyright and/or similar
> rights closely related to copyright including ... Sui Generis Database
> Rights ...
> 1.h: *Licensed Material* means the ... database ... to which the Licensor
> applied this Public License.
> 1.l: *Sui Generis Database Rights* means rights other than copyright
> resulting from Directive 96/9/EC of the European Parliament and of the
> Council of 11 March 1996 on the legal protection of databases, as amended
> and/or succeeded, as well as other essentially equivalent rights anywhere
> in the world.
>
> *Section 4 – Sui Generis Database Rights.*
>
> Where the Licensed Rights include Sui Generis Database Rights that apply
> to Your use of the Licensed Material:
>
>    1. for the avoidance of doubt, Section 2(a)(1)
>    <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s2a1> grants
>    You the right to extract, reuse, reproduce, and Share all or a substantial
>    portion of the contents of the database;
>    2. if You include all or a substantial portion of the database
>    contents in a database in which You have Sui Generis Database Rights, then
>    the database in which You have Sui Generis Database Rights (but not its
>    individual contents) is Adapted Material, including for purposes of Section
>    3(b) <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3b>;
>    and
>    3. You must comply with the conditions in Section 3(a)
>    <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a> if You
>    Share all or a substantial portion of the contents of the database.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt, this Section 4
> <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s4> supplements
> and does not replace Your obligations under this Public License where the
> Licensed Rights include other Copyright and Similar Rights.
>

And to be clear, I think this was a mistake and told CC that at the time;
the basics of why I feel that way I collected a year or so later as
https://lu.is/blog/2016/09/12/copyleft-and-data-database-law-as-poor-platform/
and some subsequent posts. But 4.0 is what it is - an attempt to shoehorn
database rights into a copyright license.

Luis
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